God

[Mimi]

Re: God

I HAVE A STONG BELIEF IN GOD!!!

[Dice]

Re: God

''Identification with your mind creates an opaque screen of concepts, labels, images, words, judgments, and definitions that blocks all true relationship. It comes between you and yourself, between you and your fellow man and woman, between you and nature, between you and God. It is this screen of thought that creates the illusion of separateness, the illusion that there is you and a totally separate "other." You then forget the essential fact that, underneath the level of physical appearances and separate forms, you are one with all that is.'' tolle

[MrHyeSev]

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[QUOTE=Anonymouse;202740]Why do you feel the need to believe in God? Are you not enough yourself?[/QU


I feel the need to live for God because he gave his only son to die for us so we can have eternal life. God has shown himself in my life & thats why I choose to live for him. Living for him & believing in him are 2 diffrent things.

Are you not enough yourself?
I am a child ofGod he gave me life & he could end my life.

Hopefully things are clearer Anonymouse.

[Anonymouse]

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"After Buddha was dead, his shadow was still shown for centuries in a cave -- a tremendous, gruesome shadow. God is dead; but given the ways of men, there may still be caves for thousands of years in which his shadow will be shown."

"Does not one write books precisely to conceal what one harbors? Indeed, he will doubt ... whether behind every one of his caves there is not, must not be, another deeper cave. ...

Every philosophy also conceals a philosophy; every opinion is also a hideout, every word also a mask."

----( Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil #289)

[Anonymouse]

Re: God

Explain to me one thing. We are all God give me an example....because in my book theres only one God, the beginning of the earth & he is awesome, so yes having a belief in God & living for him is an awesome & wonderful thing.

Why do you feel the need to believe in God? Are you not enough yourself?

[Anonymouse]

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I don't need to disprove the existence of a god. It is the theist that must provide the proof for a god and it is impossible for him to do so because it is not a testable hypothesis. At this point elementary logic would conclude that belief in a god is illogical because there is no epistemological reason to believe it. Period.

Science deals with the natural world and is limited to the present, temporal, physical world. You cannot use a standard that is used for the physical world that revolves around our senses to prove or disprove something that is beyond it.

I am not arguing for God. I am arguing at the illogical approach you are taking, which is more about ideology than any philosophical consistency or fallacy-free reasoning.

It remains what you and the God crowd have are still beliefs. You can sit here and shout and demean and try to present your "infallible" logic, but all you have is still an opinion. You don't have to like it, but that is the way it goes.

[MrHyeSev]

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personally i think it's better to have a belief in god(this can mean that you believe we are all god in reality which i do)

but I have studied alot of western philosophy(paticularily Nietzsche) and compared it with Buddhist or Christian beliefs and found that buddhism/orthodox christianity give people more initiative to go on living and treat people with respect.

The problem with Nietzsche etc is one views the world as a constant power struggle, and is subsequently brought to the assumption that the only real thing in life that has meaning is POWER and that you have to assert your power of other people/dominate to get that fix and feel good. This has plagued western thought and thrown out basic morals of human kindness etc. Everywhere you look in the west people only care about climbing up the social ladder and being more rich and powerful. All the dictators round the globe(Bush a good example), they're pretty much on par with criminals or pimps(whose only motivation is to get as many girls/guys psychologically under their control and dependancy..not even sleeping with any of the girls cos in their mind that would mean they would loose a degree of power over them).

So you can either play that game or realize that we are all human and underneath that ego based facade spurred by our own insecurities, we can treat eachother like equals and with compassion. The ego makes us think that we are seperate from everything and that the world owes us a living and we can only find our place by proving it to people. If we drop the ego, we find we already have an identity and we were born with it...we don't need people's opinions or thoughts to tell us who we are...we are perfect from the start.

We are all god we just have to unlock our true essence.
Only when we love ourselves can we love others.



Will be interested to see some constrating views to this and if anyone agrees or not.
thanks
phil

Explain to me one thing. We are all God give me an example....because in my book theres only one God, the beginning of the earth & he is awesome, so yes having a belief in God & living for him is an awesome & wonderful thing.

[jgk3]

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I think he explained his stance well enough. I actually want to read some of authors he mentioned now.

[Armanen]

Re: God

He not only couldn't answer me, but he couldn't debate you either yeraz.

[Stark Evade]

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I belong on a high horse. Salut.