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    This article made my day.




    Gender-benders

    Nov 6th 2008 | ISTANBUL
    From The Economist print edition


    Transvestites test the limits of Turkey’s tolerance

    IN A cramped makeshift theatre in Istanbul, a Kurd in a purple dress titillates the audience with the story of how he was born a man but found he was a woman. During his act, Esmeray wields a sharp tongue to expose the systematic violence faced by fellow transvestites. “I am a Kurd, a transvestite and a feminist, so I am screwed all round,” he says.

    Human-rights groups say hundreds of transvestites are detained, beaten, tortured or sexually abused every year. Many are driven into prostitution. “They are seen as the lowest of the low and face more police brutality than any other group,” says Eren Keskin, a human-rights lawyer. And when anyone has dared to file a complaint, she adds, “not a single policeman has been convicted.”

    Turkey is said to have more transvestites per head than anywhere bar Brazil. Fascination with cross-dressing dates to Ottoman times, when winsome boys dressed as girls would belly-dance for the sultan. But, just as tolerance of Christians and Kurds withered under Ataturk’s republic, so it did for transvestites and gays. The success of a few transvestite singers disguises the “general acceptance in Turkish society that we are freaks,” says Funda, a transvestite dancer.

    Same-sex relations are not banned in Turkey. But like America, it bans gays and cross-dressing men from the army. Yet to win exemption from mandatory military service, they must prove their sexual orientation. A Human Rights Watch report notes that this can involve “abusive and intrusive anal examinations”, and adds that many are forced into psychiatric treatment because they are deemed to be mentally ill.

    Such abuses have drawn rebukes from the European Union. Emboldened by EU-inspired reforms, gays are starting to speak up. In June Istanbul hosted the country’s biggest gay pride parade, with hundreds of unfazed riot police looking on. The parade featured veiled transvestites protesting against the ban on Islamic-style headscarves at universities. A vocal band of pious women is now fighting discrimination against cross-dressing compatriots. This alliance is just one example of Turkey’s unusual mix of Islam and democracy.

    The government is not so liberal. The interior ministry is said to be behind efforts to disband Lambda, an advocacy outfit, because it is sowing immoral values. An Istanbul court has ruled against Lambda, which is now appealing. And Esmeray is battling against two policemen who allegedly punched and kicked him as he was walking home in June 2007. The men are to appear in court next March on charges of causing him bodily harm. “Justice is slow, but it will come,” he vows.

    For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
    to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



    http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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    Originally posted by Armanen View Post
    [/U]Fascination with cross-dressing dates to Ottoman times, when winsome boys dressed as girls would belly-dance for the sultan.[/B]
    I don't think this is a laughing matter, I feel very sorry for these daisy plucking, turkey stuffing pansies.

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      Originally posted by Inthemood View Post
      I don't think this is a laughing matter, I feel very sorry for these daisy plucking, turkey stuffing pansies.


      More than that it really says something about the country and the orcish nature of the people, in all that is ugly, impure and sadistic.
      For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
      to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



      http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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      • #4
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        You can bet some very authoritarian Muslim Turks probably frequent these "babes" and then in the public presence and company of family and friends speak about the immoral ills of such things and how Allah will punish these deviants.
        Achkerov kute.

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        • #5
          Re: transvestites in turkey

          you guys have them too....


          on issues like these i'm willing to set aside differences and collectively focus on a greater good to annihalate abomination.

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            Re: transvestites in turkey

            I've noticed that aspects of muslime culture, especially among arabs and turks, doesn't frown upon homosexual relations if it's done between a men and a boys or more properly between an authority figure and a servent/slave.

            Anyone have more historical/cultural info on this?
            For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
            to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



            http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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              Re: transvestites in turkey

              Originally posted by SoyElTurco View Post
              you guys have them too....


              on issues like these i'm willing to set aside differences and collectively focus on a greater good to annihalate abomination.


              All countries and nations have them. The difference between Armenians and turks on this matter is that our history, religion, culture and people do NOT tolerate it. In turkey as the article points out, it is very common and has been so for centuries.
              For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
              to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



              http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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              • #8
                Re: transvestites in turkey

                Both public's nationalists!
                Bravo!! You attempt to the transvestites,gays,.. problems now for your benefits and to show how superior your races are !
                Shame on you.

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                  Re: transvestites in turkey

                  Originally posted by Anonymouse View Post
                  You can bet some very authoritarian Muslim Turks probably frequent these "babes" and then in the public presence and company of family and friends speak about the immoral ills of such things and how Allah will punish these deviants.
                  Ditto on American politicians/Religious for sure. Whether it be transvestites, or some other unholy thing. Even Bin Laden(not that i'm saying turks are like Bin Laden) for all his, "American's are sinning in the eyes of Allah" crap, frequented casinos, strip clubs, drank alcohol, tried drugs, and probably still does when he's not on the run(if he's still alive)

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                    Re: transvestites in turkey

                    Originally posted by Armanen View Post
                    I've noticed that aspects of muslime culture, especially among arabs and turks, doesn't frown upon homosexual relations if it's done between a men and a boys or more properly between an authority figure and a servent/slave.

                    Anyone have more historical/cultural info on this?
                    The Greeks.
                    Achkerov kute.

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