Announcement

Collapse

Forum Rules (Everyone Must Read!!!)

1] What you CAN NOT post.

You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this forum to post any material which is:
- abusive
- vulgar
- hateful
- harassing
- personal attacks
- obscene

You also may not:
- post images that are too large (max is 500*500px)
- post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or cited properly.
- post in UPPER CASE, which is considered yelling
- post messages which insult the Armenians, Armenian culture, traditions, etc
- post racist or other intentionally insensitive material that insults or attacks another culture (including Turks)

The Ankap thread is excluded from the strict rules because that place is more relaxed and you can vent and engage in light insults and humor. Notice it's not a blank ticket, but just a place to vent. If you go into the Ankap thread, you enter at your own risk of being clowned on.
What you PROBABLY SHOULD NOT post...
Do not post information that you will regret putting out in public. This site comes up on Google, is cached, and all of that, so be aware of that as you post. Do not ask the staff to go through and delete things that you regret making available on the web for all to see because we will not do it. Think before you post!


2] Use descriptive subject lines & research your post. This means use the SEARCH.

This reduces the chances of double-posting and it also makes it easier for people to see what they do/don't want to read. Using the search function will identify existing threads on the topic so we do not have multiple threads on the same topic.

3] Keep the focus.

Each forum has a focus on a certain topic. Questions outside the scope of a certain forum will either be moved to the appropriate forum, closed, or simply be deleted. Please post your topic in the most appropriate forum. Users that keep doing this will be warned, then banned.

4] Behave as you would in a public location.

This forum is no different than a public place. Behave yourself and act like a decent human being (i.e. be respectful). If you're unable to do so, you're not welcome here and will be made to leave.

5] Respect the authority of moderators/admins.

Public discussions of moderator/admin actions are not allowed on the forum. It is also prohibited to protest moderator actions in titles, avatars, and signatures. If you don't like something that a moderator did, PM or email the moderator and try your best to resolve the problem or difference in private.

6] Promotion of sites or products is not permitted.

Advertisements are not allowed in this venue. No blatant advertising or solicitations of or for business is prohibited.
This includes, but not limited to, personal resumes and links to products or
services with which the poster is affiliated, whether or not a fee is charged
for the product or service. Spamming, in which a user posts the same message repeatedly, is also prohibited.

7] We retain the right to remove any posts and/or Members for any reason, without prior notice.


- PLEASE READ -

Members are welcome to read posts and though we encourage your active participation in the forum, it is not required. If you do participate by posting, however, we expect that on the whole you contribute something to the forum. This means that the bulk of your posts should not be in "fun" threads (e.g. Ankap, Keep & Kill, This or That, etc.). Further, while occasionally it is appropriate to simply voice your agreement or approval, not all of your posts should be of this variety: "LOL Member213!" "I agree."
If it is evident that a member is simply posting for the sake of posting, they will be removed.


8] These Rules & Guidelines may be amended at any time. (last update September 17, 2009)

If you believe an individual is repeatedly breaking the rules, please report to admin/moderator.
See more
See less

Out of curiosity...

Collapse
X
Collapse
 
  • Page of 7
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 template Next
  • #41
    As well, there are such things as perfect imperfections. Like in diamonds. Or people.
    The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

    Comment

    • #42
      This is all true. However, I believe that the way Rene Descartes was refering to perfection was at an ultimate level. The concept of absolute perfection in itself. We can understand and discuss the idea of an absolute perfection but we have never experienced it. Of course this goes back to my argument which touches on the question: "If God didn't exist would we have the ability to reference perfection?"

      Comment

      • #43
        Originally posted by Arvestaked This is all true. However, I believe that the way Rene Descartes was refering to perfection was at an ultimate level. The concept of absolute perfection in itself. We can understand and discuss the idea of an absolute perfection but we have never experienced it. Of course this goes back to my argument which touches on the question: "If God didn't exist would we have the ability to reference perfection?"

        You know what intrigues me about all this talk of God being our reference point for perfection? If God is supposed to be 'perfection' and he is omniscient (no, not omnsicient our fellow poster, haha), omnipotent, all-knowing, all-powerful, then shouldn't he have been able to make humans to be as such, perfect? If he KNOWS ALL, then how come he didn't know how to make an Eve and an Adam who wouldn't disobey him. Probably you guys will say that the problem is he gave them FREE WILL, which everything boils down to I guess. But then, we learn when we read the Bible that God made us in his image, so then if he is PERFECTION, shouldn't we be Perfection as well?
        The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

        Comment

        • #44
          Just have faith in it, ck! Just kidding.

          This is why I have serious issues with organized religion.
          Hence my avatar.

          (I have said, also, that if he knows all, that even if we have freewill, he should know the outcome of our actions. The list goes on.)

          Comment

          • #45
            Originally posted by Arvestaked Just have faith in it, ck! Just kidding.

            This is why I have serious issues with organized religion.
            Hence my avatar.

            (I have said, also, that if he knows all, that even if we have freewill, he should know the outcome of our actions. The list goes on.)
            Actualy, you don't have to say just kidding. I do just have faith in it. I think religiouness is one of those things that one needs to have 'blind' faith in. We're all intelligent people and if we think about it and question it too much then we kill it. So I just choose to believe that there is a higher power, namely God, and that sometimes when all else fails all you can do is look to Him and let that get you through your day. But I know enough not to judge others who choose not to have the same belief, because I myself am not the best example of a believer. I don't think that we necessarily have to go to Church to pray to God and feel close to Him and so on and so forth. Like I always say, to each his own...

            Whatever makes you happy.
            The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

            Comment

            • #46
              Originally posted by Arvestaked
              This is why I have serious issues with organized religion.
              Hence my avatar.
              I thought this yankee rose thing had to do with satan worshipers or something? Isn't that technically 'organized religion'?
              The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

              Comment

              • #47
                Not Satan worshippers; The Church of Satan. The CoS has nothing to do with worshipping Satan. If I remember correctly, some of the first words in the Satanic Bible are along the lines of, "There is no heaven and there is no hell." And La Vey's Satanism is more of a mockery of religion. In any case, I made that reference because I share views with ASL though I am not a "follower." I must admit it makes me feel warm and fuzzy knowing that you understand the reference.

                FYI: "Yankee Rose" are the last words in the Satanic Bible and nobody knows why ASL wrote them.
                Last edited by Arvestaked; 12-03-2003, 04:02 PM.

                Comment

                • #48
                  Originally posted by Arvestaked Not Satan worshippers; The Church of Satan. The CoS has nothing to do with worshipping Satan. If I remember correctly, some of the first words in the Satanic Bible are along the lines of, "There is no heaven and the is no hell." And La Vey's Satanism is more of a mockery of religion. In any case, I made that reference because I share views with ASL though I am not a "follower."
                  Oh, makes sense....

                  Anyway whenever people start trying to figure out religion too much I am reminded of this....

                  " St. Augustine was having a tremendous struggle spiritually: he could not reconcile, (with all of his mighty logic, his education, and his worldliness), the three parts of the Trinity into the whole. It was said that often when St. Augustine struggled with such ruminations, he would walk the beach. It so happens that on this particular day, the saint was walking down a familiar stretch, when he happened upon a young girl. The girl was running into the ocean, filling a small pail with water, and running back to the beach, where she deposited the water into a small hole. She was very serious about this, and very confident. St. Augustine approached the girl and asked, "What are you doing?" She responded by saying, "I am putting the whole of the ocean into this hole." St. Augustine was taken back a bit, bemused. Finally, he looked at the girl and stated, "Little girl, you cannot possibly fit the whole of the ocean into that tiny hole!" The girl quit what she was doing, looked at the great saint, and said, "And neither can you understand all of the mysteries of God." "
                  The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

                  Comment

                  • #49
                    It is a cute parable.

                    Comment

                    • #50
                      Re: Re: Re: Out of curiosity...

                      [QUOTE]Originally posted by Anonymouse [B]My post was sarcastic you ball sack tumor.[Quote]

                      You tried too hard. People, it is so lame when you try to be sarcastic, please, just let it flow.

                      Anyway, what I was trying to say is that if you acknowledge God in the mind, then he exists in the understanding, and necessarily in reality. If he exists in the understanding, he might exist in reality.

                      But since, all peoples in societies at least aknowledge the existence of a God in the understanding, they can not be atheist.

                      No such thing as one. Who ever claims to be is false.

                      Comment

                      Previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 template Next
                      Working...
                      X