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  • Did I do the right thing?

    Yesterday, we had a little get together at my house. I'll try to make this easy to understand without mentioning any names. It was my girlfriend and I, my sister and her fiance, my sister's fiance's brother (let's call him 'Older Brother') and their cousin. The cousin is 18 and is visiting from Florida. We began drinking and having a good time, also keeping an eye on the cousin. We let her drink a little but made sure she was okay.

    It was around 1:30am and my sister's fiance's younger brother (let's call him 'Younger Brother') joined us too. Everybody was hungry so since Younger Brother was sober, he drove to get food. When we got back, my sister and girlfriend were in my house and my sister's fiance had just left. So, the rest of us ate and around 2am, they decided to go home. However, since Older Brother was drunk and had to drive his cousin, my plan was to make sure he didn't drive. Instead, I wanted Younger Brother to drive.

    The Older Brother refused to let his Younger Brother drive. I did everything I could to make sure he didn't get behind the wheel; not only had he drank 10+ shots, he had his brother and cousin in the car as well. I tried telling him as calmly as I could and he wouldn't listen. I tried blocking his way into the car, only to be thrown away. He became furious after a while and started pushing me away. I was forced to become aggressive and started grabbing him and pushing him off the car. He started cussing at me while using some very horrible language. In the end, the Younger Brother drove.

    Today, my sister text messaged me telling me to meet them at Starbucks because the Older Brother wanted to talk. He had text messaged me saying he hadn't slept all night and had to discuss some things. I assumed it was because he felt guilty for how he acted (he said some horrible things and it wouldn't matter much but since he's family, it was extremley insulting). So, my girlfriend and I drove there and my sister/her fiance/Older Brother were there.

    Basically, he jumped right into it. He said he understands what I tried to do, but he has a problem with being "touched" or talked down to, and he didn't appreciate my behavior. He said I embarrased him in front of his brother/cousin and that I crossed the line after many warnings. I was completely shocked. I told them what happened and how I did everything I could so he wouldn't drive and I was pretty much ignored. The focus of the meeting wasn't even on drunk driving. He even told me he made his Younger Brother pull over and he drove the rest of the way home!! I eventually got very pissed off when he told my girlfriend to stop talking because she had nothing to do with it, so I left.

    An hour later my sister's fiance pleaded for me to go back. When I got there, it was just us guys. I told them very bluntly that what he did/wanted to do was wrong and I was FORCED to act the way I did. I had to make sure he didn't get behind the wheel and that was my ONLY concern. I told them I don't regret how I acted and that I had NO CHOICE. The Older Brother said to me that next time, it's not your choice who drives and that next time I shouldn't force him out of the car. I didn't want to stay there any longer so I let him go home. I stayed there for a few minutes with my sister's fiance and told him his brother is very wrong and he's going to end up hurting himself and others.

    I'm extremely hurt by what he said to me last night and today. As I said, I don't let words get to me but since he's family, it really bothers me. I can't believe I went there thinking he was going to be understanding now that he's sober.

    Did I do the right thing by stopping him? Should I have acted differently? In my defense, I couldn't have acted any differently. I was in my apartment's garage, without a phone and no one around me. I was hoping the Younger Brother would listen to me instead of his drunk brother and stay in the driver seat, instead he listened to his Older Brother. Was I wrong to use force to try to remove him from his car? It was him who forcibly shoved me in the first place and I felt like I had no choice but to physically make sure he didn't get in the car.

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    Re: Did I do the right thing?

    You acted perfectly, both yesterday and today.
    If "Older Brother" considers his macho image is more important than the lives of others, including close family, he needs to do some serious self-reflection.
    I lost a niece to a drunk-driver some years ago and it never leaves you.

    The only other thing you could have done would to have called for a cab and thrown "Older Brother's" keys down the toilet. That would have probably ended in real physical abuse.

    The next-day meeting perhaps shows this guy has a deepseated problem, not necessarily fueled by alcohol.You did right, that guy is a disgrace and next time, he should leave his keys and his machismo at home.

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    • #3
      Re: Did I do the right thing?

      Originally posted by hrai View Post
      You acted perfectly, both yesterday and today.
      If "Older Brother" considers his macho image is more important than the lives of others, including close family, he needs to do some serious self-reflection.
      I lost a niece to a drunk-driver some years ago and it never leaves you.

      The only other thing you could have done would to have called for a cab and thrown "Older Brother's" keys down the toilet. That would have probably ended in real physical abuse.

      The next-day meeting perhaps shows this guy has a deepseated problem, not necessarily fueled by alcohol.You did right, that guy is a disgrace and next time, he should leave his keys and his machismo at home.

      Yea.

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      • #4
        Re: Did I do the right thing?

        Originally posted by hrai View Post
        You acted perfectly, both yesterday and today.
        If "Older Brother" considers his macho image is more important than the lives of others, including close family, he needs to do some serious self-reflection.
        I lost a niece to a drunk-driver some years ago and it never leaves you.

        The only other thing you could have done would to have called for a cab and thrown "Older Brother's" keys down the toilet. That would have probably ended in real physical abuse.

        The next-day meeting perhaps shows this guy has a deepseated problem, not necessarily fueled by alcohol.You did right, that guy is a disgrace and next time, he should leave his keys and his machismo at home.
        Yeah, I regret not snatching the keys from them. I kept telling him today it all boils down to his "macho image" and he kept laughing it off. He kept telling me, "Who's this guy? You don't know me." It's the perfect example of high school behavior and he needs to grow up.

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        • #5
          Re: Did I do the right thing?

          Tell that arse hole next time you'll call the cops on him. There is absolutely ZERO excuse for what he did. He is a macho moron and you should NOT feel bad for what you did and you should NOT appologize or back down. He can do whatever the heck he wants to himself but when he gets behind the wheel drunk (10 shots, really?), he is putting OTHER people's live at risk.

          You were not the one to embarass him. He made a fool of himself. Hopefully next time you won't be the only one trying to prevent this idiot from behaving like a complete jack ass.
          this post = teh win.

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          • #6
            Re: Did I do the right thing?

            I think what I wanted out of our meeting today was an intervention. Nobody was there with him except me so they don't know how the situation presented itself. I thought we were also going to sit down and discuss his behavior, and he was going to admit how foolish he was and grow up. I'm angry because that didn't get accomplished, partly because he had his own topic to discuss and partly because I was too frustrated to continue.

            I got my message across to his brother and it's their problem now. I told them I was able to stop him last night but what if I'm not there next time? What if nobody is there to stop him?

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            • #7
              Re: Did I do the right thing?

              Originally posted by Sip
              Tell that arse hole next time you'll call the cops on him. There is absolutely ZERO excuse for what he did. He is a macho moron and you should NOT feel bad for what you did and you should NOT appologize or back down. He can do whatever the heck he wants to himself but when he gets behind the wheel drunk (10 shots, really?), he is putting OTHER people's live at risk.

              You were not the one to embarass him. He made a fool of himself. Hopefully next time you won't be the only one trying to prevent this idiot from behaving like a complete jack ass.

              Took the words right out of my mouth. One-Way, you did exactly what you were supposed to do. Don't take any of this guy's sh*t.

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              • #8
                Re: Did I do the right thing?

                You did the right thing One-Way. I wished more people would take control of such situations like you did. We all have a moral responsibility in this regard especially if they are YOUR guests who have been drinking in YOUR house.

                I have been in that situation before but never with family member (and the debriefing afterwards ), I know that can get touchy.
                The last time similar situation happened I didn’t allow any passengers to get in the car to go with this guy and told him that if anything happened I would be the first one to testify against him in a court of law. He changed his mind real quick.
                Threatening them by calling in their license plate and description to the cops if they drive off before dropping off his passengers home myself works as well.

                The best is to set the ground rules and make it crystal clear before a party.
                B0zkurt Hunter

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                • #9
                  Re: Did I do the right thing?

                  I agree, you acted the right way, I personally refuse to climb in the car with a drunk person driving, for that matter I don' even get sloshed in public places, only at people's homes who I indeed trust (I fear for my virtue )

                  And 10 shots for God's sakes, most people can't even stand let alone drive at that volume of liquor mate

                  But yeah bro, I agree with Sip and Edmond here, I've had to do the same, you tell that person then and there that you will put the cops on them

                  You did not embarrass him, he embarrassed himself and acted childish even, you're not to blame man, I wish more people would act like you did, it makes the world safer

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                  • #10
                    Re: Did I do the right thing?

                    Instead of him thanking you he decided to be a jerk about it.
                    Positive vibes, positive taught

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