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[Haykakan]

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You dont need a phd in statistics to use statistics.

Not saying we don't need other fields, I'm just saying putting a subject like political science as scientific as mathematics is not accurate at all. Many sociologists/psychologists use statistics without knowing much about it. They just press a button look at a p-value and start making "conclusions". Many times such conclusions turn out to be BS and naive as a result of not having a deeper understanding of the statistics they used to analyse it. Research in any field without having a decent knowledge of mathematics/statistics can be rather dangerous.

[Mos]

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Mos everything comes down to math but math alone wont solve our problems and that is why we need all these other fields of study. Psychology, sociology, history, economics are all very much scientific endeavors deserving of respect and have helped humanity greatly. Dont go around repeating Armanan's quotes about everything besides physics and math being irrelevent because its not true. Just becaus you and your friends prefer one kind of science does not make the other fields any less important.

Not saying we don't need other fields, I'm just saying putting a subject like political science as scientific as mathematics is not accurate at all. Many sociologists/psychologists use statistics without knowing much about it. They just press a button look at a p-value and start making "conclusions". Many times such conclusions turn out to be BS and naive as a result of not having a deeper understanding of the statistics they used to analyse it. Research in any field without having a decent knowledge of mathematics/statistics can be rather dangerous.

[Haykakan]

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Mos everything comes down to math but math alone wont solve our problems and that is why we need all these other fields of study. Psychology, sociology, history, economics are all very much scientific endeavors deserving of respect and have helped humanity greatly. Dont go around repeating Armanan's quotes about everything besides physics and math being irrelevent because its not true. Just becaus you and your friends prefer one kind of science does not make the other fields any less important.

[Mos]

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You don't know sh!t about science. I love when someone who's never taken much coursework in a subject states something they're totally ignorant about with such great confidence. It's a dangerous thing to think you know a lot more than you know. Be humbler and actually look into something before speaking on it.

PolSci has very little mathematical and concrete theory? Biology is very mathematical then? All sciences use probability theory and statistical theory. If you want to get into the equations for the statistical tests we use to avoid spurious findings and errors, I have a whole book of equations for you. Many from calculus. It will satisfy your "math" requirement.

I know more about science and mathematics than you. And my degree is in mathematical sciences. Yes PolSci has very little mathematical theory. Just take a look at some of the courses PolSci people have to take. Biology has theory behind it. The fundamentals of Biology derive from Chemistry, which derives from Physics and which in turn derives from Mathematics. So please don't ever put PoliSci at level of the natural sciences or mathematics. It's an insult to actual scientists in those fields.

[KanadaHye]

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You don't know sh!t about science. I love when someone who's never taken much coursework in a subject states something they're totally ignorant about with such great confidence. It's a dangerous thing to think you know a lot more than you know. Be humbler and actually look into something before speaking on it.

WTF? What he said is true...

[Siggie]

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Because PolSci has very little mathematical and concrete theory to it. It's often very subjective and not objective enough as other sciences. A field such as Finance or Chemistry have a much more objective and pure theory to it.

You don't know sh!t about science. I love when someone who's never taken much coursework in a subject states something they're totally ignorant about with such great confidence. It's a dangerous thing to think you know a lot more than you know. Be humbler and actually look into something before speaking on it.

PolSci has very little mathematical and concrete theory? Biology is very mathematical then? All sciences use probability theory and statistical theory. If you want to get into the equations for the statistical tests we use to avoid spurious findings and errors, I have a whole book of equations for you. Many from calculus. It will satisfy your "math" requirement.

[Hyegirl]

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Because PolSci has very little mathematical and concrete theory to it. It's often very subjective and not objective enough as other sciences. A field such as Finance or Chemistry have a much more objective and pure theory to it.

What about economics? I met a former econ major who changed to finance because econ was more theory and finance was more real world application as he understood things.

[Mos]

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Can you elaborate on this? You sound very confident in this pronouncement, but I'd like to hear your reasoning.

What is "real science"? How is the science in PoliSci lacking?

Because PolSci has very little mathematical and concrete theory to it. It's often very subjective and not objective enough as other sciences. A field such as Finance or Chemistry have a much more objective and pure theory to it.

[Siggie]

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Finance is much better than political science. Very interesting mathematical applications in finance that I have dealt with. In the end, you are learning something more objective. Politicial Science is just so subjective - there's no real science involved.

Can you elaborate on this? You sound very confident in this pronouncement, but I'd like to hear your reasoning.

What is "real science"? How is the science in PoliSci lacking?

[Mos]

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And here I am, almost jealous of someone on our (local representative's) campaign who is actually studying political science while I majored in finance...

Finance is much better than political science. Very interesting mathematical applications in finance that I have dealt with. In the end, you are learning something more objective. Politicial Science is just so subjective - there's no real science involved.