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Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

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  • #61
    Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

    Originally posted by axel View Post
    You haven't read/understood my message so I'm not going to insist.
    You don't understand Christ.

    I will just add one last thing regarding love.

    Maybe you do not love anyone. Maybe you do not love your parents (rather, you choose to "love" them) Yet if you do, the day they will pass away, you will understand that love is not a matter of "choice" as you put it.

    Siggie has this interesting quote by Philip K. Dick in her signature:
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away."
    If it's not a matter of choice then by your claim not everyone is capable of giving or receiving it. Not everyone is fortunate to be born into a loving environment, that doesn't mean that they are incapable of learning.
    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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    • #62
      Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

      If it's not a matter of choice then by your claim not everyone is capable of giving or receiving it.
      It depends on the degree of maturity of the individual.

      Not everyone is fortunate to be born into a loving environment
      Maturity comes from experience and hardship. A loving environment is not always best suited for that.

      that doesn't mean that they are incapable of learning
      It is possible that we agree but I am not at ease with the wording. The way I understand "learning" is "acquiring knowledge". So in my view, it has to do with the intellect. But this is not about knowledge (information), this is about your inner self.

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      • #63
        Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

        ...this is about your inner self.

        Luke 17:20 Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said, “The kingdom of God does not come with observation;
        Luke 17:21 nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”

        "the kingdom of God is within you", potentially, that is, for the gate is "narrow".

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        • #64
          Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

          Originally posted by axel View Post
          If you love someone, is that driven by ideology? Is there anything greater than love in life?
          True.

          Originally posted by axel View Post
          My argument is a rational argument against rationalism. It has no further pretention, precisely because one does not change his/her overall attitude towards life based on an intellectual argument but rather after a spiritual shock induced by hard experience. A spiritual shock may arise from a discussion only if one stops reasoning from the outside but accepts to engage himself in it fully ("existentially"). Most often, this does not happen. The "atheist" sticks to the conceptual/intellectual plane where he sees his counterpart as a "theist", ie a proponent of an opposing "theory" (we have an illustration a bit above)
          Maybe we should define 'life' in the first place as it is a quite vast concept. I'm not talking necessarily about 'changing' your attitude towards life but the one you hold currently, isn't it (at least part of it) inspired by your version of ideology?

          Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
          Islam is neither racist nor can it in any way be confused with narcissism while todays zionists are unquestionably both...
          I am not attributing those characteristics to Muslum individuals but the nature of Islam in general and its teachings, that is if you've read some Islamic texts and are familiar with the Law.

          As for your dislike of Christianity, I must say Christianity is inherently attached to the Armenian soul, culture and being. It is being felt everywhere in Armenia and it's beautiful. Haven't you noticed that?

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          • #65
            Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

            Originally posted by Lucin View Post

            As for your dislike of Christianity, I must say Christianity is inherently attached to the Armenian soul, culture and being. It is being felt everywhere in Armenia and it's beautiful. Haven't you noticed that?
            Maybe they should start exporting that... because the rest of the world is getting rather ugly
            "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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            • #66
              Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

              Originally posted by Lucin
              Maybe we should define 'life' in the first place as it is a quite vast concept.
              I suggest we listen to some Bach instead: http://www.youtube.com/goliadkine#p/u/2/7yl_eQpi8Ko
              or watch a good choregraphy: http://www.youtube.com/goliadkine#p/u/12/DxAIGDgbP84

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              • #67
                Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

                Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                Maybe they should start exporting that... because the rest of the world is getting rather ugly
                I think Axel must have made this phone call.

                This is a clip from episode 563 of"The Atheist Experience" TV showWatch the TV show athttp://www.atheist-experience.com/


                An example of a fail Christian.

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                • #68
                  Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

                  Originally posted by hipeter924 View Post
                  I think Axel must have made this phone call.

                  This is a clip from episode 563 of"The Atheist Experience" TV showWatch the TV show athttp://www.atheist-experience.com/


                  An example of a fail Christian.
                  It's too bad they only get the dumb callers on those shows... I guess that makes it easier to argue their case.


                  As far as Abiogenesis goes.... Evolution contradicts the Laws of Science, particularly the Law of Biogenesis.

                  There has been no scientific evidence that life has been produced through any scientific experiment. Not in any lab or any experiment. This exists only in the minds of evolutionists in the form of wishful thinking. The only thing that scientists have managed to accomplish is the creation of a few strands of amino acids.... with the help of electricity of course.
                  "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                  • #69
                    Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

                    Originally posted by hipeter924 View Post
                    I think Axel must have made this phone call.

                    This is a clip from episode 563 of"The Atheist Experience" TV showWatch the TV show athttp://www.atheist-experience.com/


                    An example of a fail Christian.
                    "What are you laughing at? You are laughing at yourself, oh you!" (Gogol)

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                    • #70
                      Re: Richard Dawkins interview with Bill O'Reilly

                      Originally posted by axel View Post
                      I suggest we listen to some Bach instead: http://www.youtube.com/goliadkine#p/u/2/7yl_eQpi8Ko
                      or watch a good choregraphy: http://www.youtube.com/goliadkine#p/u/12/DxAIGDgbP84
                      That is life.

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