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Arvestaked replied

01-14-2004, 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by felizitation What I understood is in fact that he lived his memories back, but he was also there since his memories took over his reason, and he wanted to kill the old lady at the end, thus understanding that all was only vision. He was there indeed, he didn't intervene in scenes because of his imagination.

Actually, were the xxxxx and his mother the same person ? The main interest of the movie is the one that, since it is stated at the end that he saw the world exactly as he imaginated, what was true, what was false. The facts such as he killed his mother is true, why did he assimilate his mother to the xxxxx ?

It is not comparable to 6thsense. 6th sense is one of these movies good "just for the first time". Cronnenberg, even if i didn't appreciate Spider as you, is still far away from this kind of "PG13 family approved - good time inside" stuff.

I have not seen the movie in about a year but I am doing my best.

He was not physically there when he was reliving his memories. But his memories were not the real past. His memories were tainted by hallucinations. The hallucinations were driven by his constant defensive outlook on life. If you remember, he set up spider webs around his room like protection. That shows that he always felt like he was being attacked by something or someone. The first time you saw that xxxxx in the bar, it was all real. From that point on, she was incorporated in his defensive/fearful hallucinations. This movie is a very clever story that takes a very interesting point of view with respect to the psychology of a particular schizophrenic.

This whole discussion has ruined the movie for those who have not seen it, but oh well.
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Artsakhtsi replied

01-14-2004, 03:17 AM
Originally posted by Baron Dants It was a nice church, but didn't give quite the same impact as the other churches in Armenia. I like the old, cavernous aspect of our churches, and the fact that they are mostly dim, with only a few candles and the rays of sunshine coming in from the windows.

Even Etchmiadzin, which I thought would be a very moving experience didn't have as big an impact as, for example, Geghart.

The reason why i mentioned churches in Shushi, is couse' es kenkhvelem Kananch Zhamoum
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Anonymouse replied

01-13-2004, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by Baron Dants HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHAHA!!!!

Still laughing out loud here. Getsess.

Hollywood Shmollywood. Mer Hayastanin pakhdadmamp inch e vor?

When we moved from Armenia my family settled in Hollywood. But now I live in Shmollywood.
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xBaron Dants replied

01-13-2004, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by jahannam hahahha
just give a thread about "hollywood" to a handful of hairenaserz and check out how they change the topic to churches of Armenia and Artsakh baby!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAHAHA!!!!

Still laughing out loud here. Getsess.

Hollywood Shmollywood. Mer Hayastanin pakhdadmamp inch e vor?
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jahannam replied

01-13-2004, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by Baron Dants It was a nice church, but didn't give quite the same impact as the other churches in Armenia. I like the old, cavernous aspect of our churches, and the fact that they are mostly dim, with only a few candles and the rays of sunshine coming in from the windows.

Even Etchmiadzin, which I thought would be a very moving experience didn't have as big an impact as, for example, Geghart.

hahahha
just give a thread about "hollywood" to a handful of hairenaserz and check out how they change the topic to churches of Armenia and Artsakh baby!!
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Anonymouse replied

01-13-2004, 05:00 PM
I bet some of the people in here who are into celebrity movie worshipping, are also the ones who cry when their favorite actor/actress dies.
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xBaron Dants replied

01-13-2004, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by Artsakhtsi How about Churches, specially the new one. Beautiful.

It was a nice church, but didn't give quite the same impact as the other churches in Armenia. I like the old, cavernous aspect of our churches, and the fact that they are mostly dim, with only a few candles and the rays of sunshine coming in from the windows.

Even Etchmiadzin, which I thought would be a very moving experience didn't have as big an impact as, for example, Geghart.
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felizitation replied

01-13-2004, 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by Arvestaked People did not see him because he was not there. He was living in his memories. He was the boy. He makes that clear long before the end of the film. This was better than The Sixth Sense. Plus, film has been doing that long before The Sixth Sense. For example, in Stanley Kubrick's The Shining, one asks himself if the hotel is really haunted or is Jack just imagining things. You find out at the end that it was actually haunted. That movie was made in 1980. And speaking of Stanley Kubrick, Eyes Wide Shut is also like that and you said you liked that movie. Mulholland Dr. also does it in a way and that it one of the best films ever made.

What I understood is in fact that he lived his memories back, but he was also there since his memories took over his reason, and he wanted to kill the old lady at the end, thus understanding that all was only vision. He was there indeed, he didn't intervene in scenes because of his imagination.

Actually, were the xxxxx and his mother the same person ? The main interest of the movie is the one that, since it is stated at the end that he saw the world exactly as he imaginated, what was true, what was false. The facts such as he killed his mother is true, why did he assimilate his mother to the xxxxx ?

It is not comparable to 6thsense. 6th sense is one of these movies good "just for the first time". Cronnenberg, even if i didn't appreciate Spider as you, is still far away from this kind of "PG13 family approved - good time inside" stuff.
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Arvestaked replied

01-13-2004, 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by felizitation Mmmmmmmmmmmm...
There were some points that C. simply didn't developped. For instance, the writings in a language only understood by the character himself, the fact that nowone was seing him or interact with him.

Because even if he relates what brought him to madness, it was as if he wasn't there. He was there though

By the way, it is more a general feeling concerning the movie. It's too easy to put eyebath on spectators and, at the end, tell that everything was only imagination. I'm not convinced, I'm simply fed up of these kind of films in which we have to wait the end to have the almighty clue to understand everything (since the 6th sense I guess, I turns out to be a new fashion).
I'm not saying that cronnenberg lined up to fashion, it's not in his habbits. But this movie didn't convinced me.

People did not see him because he was not there. He was living in his memories. He was the boy. He makes that clear long before the end of the film. This was better than The Sixth Sense. Plus, film has been doing that long before The Sixth Sense. For example, in Stanley Kubrick's The Shining, one asks himself if the hotel is really haunted or is Jack just imagining things. You find out at the end that it was actually haunted. That movie was made in 1980. And speaking of Stanley Kubrick, Eyes Wide Shut is also like that and you said you liked that movie. Mulholland Dr. also does it in a way and that it one of the best films ever made.
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felizitation replied

01-13-2004, 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by Arvestaked Missing what? It was such a great expression of a very interesting point of view. Excellently directed and very finely acted. It was one of the best movies that came out at the time.

Mmmmmmmmmmmm...
There were some points that C. simply didn't developped. For instance, the writings in a language only understood by the character himself, the fact that nowone was seing him or interact with him.

Because even if he relates what brought him to madness, it was as if he wasn't there. He was there though

By the way, it is more a general feeling concerning the movie. It's too easy to put eyebath on spectators and, at the end, tell that everything was only imagination. I'm not convinced, I'm simply fed up of these kind of films in which we have to wait the end to have the almighty clue to understand everything (since the 6th sense I guess, I turns out to be a new fashion).
I'm not saying that cronnenberg lined up to fashion, it's not in his habbits. But this movie didn't convinced me.
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