Principles

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by loseyourname Who the hell said we voted for anything? I'm talking about interpersonal honesty, anyway. I don't want the government to operate completely in the open. Governments need to keep secrets to remain in power, and I certainly want my nation to have a government.

Now what principles do you hold yourself to?

But that is the essential problem. Honesty means just that, honesty. You don't have to make it elastic. Honesty to thyself is the most important. From this all else flows. Thus government is dishonesty towards me, while expoiting and taking for granted my trust. The government is composed of people, people who beg for votes, who promise this and that, and essentially use coercion to keep order and entangle this country in foreign wars that I didn't want myself to be entangled. Thus "democracy" is a failure in representing me, the individual. Was I consulted? No. I was lied to. Now, thanks to them, my life is threatened if I go to Latin America, or the Middle East, or Asia and tell them I am "American". That is what deception is, so I don't agree with your attempt at trying to make "honesty" by mitigating its meaning.

[Aphrodit3]

Respect, honesty, trust, blah blah.
This is my foundation for any relationship. If it's not there then I waste no time or effort.

[loseyourname]

Who the hell said we voted for anything? I'm talking about interpersonal honesty, anyway. I don't want the government to operate completely in the open. Governments need to keep secrets to remain in power, and I certainly want my nation to have a government.

Now what principles do you hold yourself to?

[Anonymouse]

Gee, the same bafoons who cry for "honesty" are the same ones who vote for the politicians and uphold the system which is ipso facto deception.

Political deception is the easiest and most obvious, yet few acknowledge it.

[sSsflamesSs]

Pasa, for some odd reason, every time I see your new avatar, I think of a hairy armpit, only to realize, seconds later, that it's a fiery dragon. I'm not kidding, lol.

Oh sorry, the subject.

Honesty and respect for all that deserve it.

[PASAMONSTER]

Adam is loseyourname right?

if so then I agree with adam. Lying and i mean any kind of lying is deception and deception is a form of betrayal.

but on the other hand one must be expecting the truth is one is exptecting a lie and you tell them a lie then its the truth for them.

[SexyAries]

I'll have to agree with you Adam, honesty is very big in my book.

[felizitation]

Re: Principles

Originally posted by loseyourname One once told me that the filter between mind and mouth does not exist in me.

Well, I guess it's pretty much the same for me. But

Originally posted by loseyourname You unprincipled little xxxxs. No wonder the world's so screwed.

... you described very well what's the cost ...

[loseyourname]

You unprincipled little xxxxs. No wonder the world's so screwed. Spiral, thank you for answering. I respect you for that.

[felizitation]

Re: Principles

Originally posted by loseyourname What are some of the ones you hold yourself to? What is important to you?

Truth and honesty are the biggest for me. I'm never going to believe something falsely, never going to be fooled by the force of my own conviction, much less someone else's, and I'm not going to be sucked in by sophistry. I think that is one thing that absolutely kills this world, as people fight for ideologies that really aren't even theirs. Brothers and sisters are killing each other for falsehoods and ephemeral notions.

I guess the honesty one can get me in trouble sometimes. People, especially girlfriends, don't like a guy that holds nothing back and always speaks his mind. One once told me that the filter between mind and mouth does not exist in me. Well, you know what? I'm proud of that. You're never going to wonder with me, because I'll come right out and tell you. You'll never distrust me . . . okay, I'm ranting again - sorry.

Get on with your own principles.

I tend to avoid falling into pathos