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    Elderly Woman Single-Handedly Shuts Down Armenian Internet

    A 75-year-old Georgian woman shut down the Internet in neighboring Armenia for more than 12 hours last month when she sliced through a fiber optic cable while looking for scrap metal, according to Georgian officials.

    Nearly all of Armenia was without Internet access on March 28 and customers of one of the largest Georgian Internet service providers, Caucasus Online, also lost access for nearly five hours, according to Bloomberg.

    The woman was arrested by Georgian authorities and charged with property damage, the news agency reported Wednesday. She was "temporarily released due to her old age" on the day of the incident, Bloomberg quoted Georgian Interior Ministry spokesman Zurab Gvenetadze as saying.

    She has confessed to damaging a cable belonging to Georgian Railway Telecom while looking for copper near the Georgian village of Ksani, according to Azerbaijan's News.az.

    How the woman managed to find an Internet cable that provides 90 percent of Armenia's Internet access was a mystery, a Georgian Railway Telecom spokesman told Bloomberg.

    "We don't how she found the optic cable, which was secure," he said. The spokesman speculated that mudslides may have exposed the cable to people hunting for copper and other scrap metal.

    The incident affected tens of thousands of residents and businesses in the two countries, the Georgian ministry official said. Armenia's three main ISPs—ArmenTel, FiberNet Communication and GNC-Alfa—were all unable to provide service for hours, according to reports.

    Caucasus Online launched its $76 million fiber-optic link to Western European ISPs in 2008. A monitoring station in Western Europe detected the damage on the day of the incident and immediately dispatched a security team to Georgia, where the woman was arrested, The Guardian reported Thursday.

    Elderly Woman Single-Handedly Shuts Down Armenian Internet
    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2383278,00.asp
    A 75-year-old Georgian woman shut down the Internet in neighboring Armenia for more than 12 hours last month when she sliced through a fiber optic cable while looking for scrap metal.
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    Re: Elderly Woman Single-Handedly Shuts Down Armenian Internet

    This has secuity implications for both Georgia and Armenia, need to look at auxiliary satellite based internet systems.

    The woman was arrested by Georgian authorities and charged with property damage, the news agency reported Wednesday. She was "temporarily released due to her old age" on the day of the incident, Bloomberg quoted Georgian Interior Ministry spokesman Zurab Gvenetadze as saying.
    Apparently the Georgians have charged this poor old dear and she could face up to a 3 year jail sentence.

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      Re: Elderly Woman Single-Handedly Shuts Down Armenian Internet

      A 3-year jail sentence for property damage? Is there no element of intent in Georgian criminal law?
      I can't imagine they'd do that.
      [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
      -Henry Ford[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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        Re: Elderly Woman Single-Handedly Shuts Down Armenian Internet

        Grandma’s cutting off Armenia’s internet resembles Georgian farce

        April 08, 2011 | 17:07

        YEREVAN. - Three out of four cables connecting Armenia to the global network were damaged in Georgia twice over the recent 16 days.

        The last damage cut off majority of the Armenian internet users. Three days later Georgian sources reported it was caused by Hayastan Shakaryan, a 75 years old woman of Armenian origin. Georgian Internal Ministry said the woman was looking for copper near the village of Ksani on March 28 and damaged fiber optic cable.

        All the mentioned events could still happen but there are certain facts that cast doubt on disclosure by the Georgian Ministry of Internal Affairs. Firstly, the cable was damaged at the section having strategic importance from the viewpoint of information security.

        Secondly, Georgians note that the woman was looking for copper but forgot that fiber optic backbone cable is made of fiber optic, not copper.

        Another point is whether 75-year-old woman is physically capable to digging in and removing a cable. The arrested woman also claimed she could not. If we imagine that she managed to do it then she had to spend the whole day digging and removing it. In this case why was this fact neglected by Georgian controllers who are ensuring security of a key junction providing considerable part of Armenia and Georgia with the internet?

        Finally, Georgian Internal Ministry named the suspect only three days after she was arrested. Why were they concealing her name for three days?

        The case resembles a farce especially after part of cables connecting Armenia to the World Wide Web was damaged again on April 7. This time Georgian side failed to find “grandma looking for copper”.

        Surprisingly, the Armenian officials responsible for information security are still silent. Neither National Security Council, nor other institution issued any statement commenting on these events. One gets an impression that those responsible for information security do not understand importance of the internet both for the state and population.

        Once such an accident occurs overseas, joint inter-governmental groups are set up to investigate causes of the damage and assesses financial losses.

        In this case governmental institutions should protect interests of the internet operators functioning in Armenia, as legally this case is considered force majeure and companies cannot protect their interest in courts.

        Armenian institutions should clearly explain to Georgian neighbors that ensuring of Armenia’s internet security should be perfectly fulfilled.

        Presently Armenia is connected to the internet through 6 foreign channels – four in Georgia and two in Iran.

        Grandma’s cutting off Armenia’s internet resembles Georgian farce
        http://news.am/eng/news/54620.html
        Three out of four cables were damaged in Georgia twice over the recent 16 days…
        Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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          Werd... Seems like regardless exactly what happened it's embarrassing because it happened.
          [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
          -Henry Ford[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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            Re: Elderly Woman Single-Handedly Shuts Down Armenian Internet

            When I first heard about this story, the first thing that came to my mind is sabotage. The second thing that came to my mind is possible future sabotages due to the exposed vulnerability of the cables thanks to these ridiculous articles that a granny allegedly damaged the cable.
            Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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              Re: Elderly Woman Single-Handedly Shuts Down Armenian Internet

              Sure. I meant that either way (whether it was grandma or if that was a cover), it shows that whatever security they had was insufficient.
              [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
              -Henry Ford[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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                Originally posted by Federate View Post
                When I first heard about this story, the first thing that came to my mind is sabotage. The second thing that came to my mind is possible future sabotages due to the exposed vulnerability of the cables thanks to these ridiculous articles that a granny allegedly damaged the cable.
                Well the main way they provide security to cables is by not disclosing the route.

                Originally posted by Siggie View Post
                A 3-year jail sentence for property damage? Is there no element of intent in Georgian criminal law?
                I can't imagine they'd do that.
                Throwing a clearly very poor 75-year-old woman in jail for digging up a piece of cable is ridiculous. However with Georgians you never know. However this is a high profile international news story, so maybe they will let her off with a warning.

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                  Re: Elderly Woman Single-Handedly Shuts Down Armenian Internet

                  People get what they deserve
                  she knew what she was doing.

                  let' see who post on my comment saying[ Captain Obvious]
                  Positive vibes, positive taught

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                    Re: Elderly Woman Single-Handedly Shuts Down Armenian Internet

                    Originally posted by PepsiAddict View Post
                    People get what they deserve
                    she knew what she was doing.

                    let' see who post on my comment saying[ Captain Obvious]
                    An interesting view from someone who wouldn't accept the consequences of his own behavior...
                    [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
                    -Henry Ford[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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