Gagik Tsarukyan

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Gagik Tsarukyan

http://old.hetq.am/en/economy/ostinvestor-3/ "Ostinvestor" v Gagik Tsarukyan: German Firm Files Suit to Recapture Shares in "Yerevan Ararat Brandy"

[HermanGerman]

Re: Gagik Tsarukyan

@bell
I would not support lokal mafiosis, but I also would not relativize genocide denial, fascist or racist ideology and last but not least I would not go to a forum of people who had suffered so much and make idiotic, useless and sarcastic comments. Yes we have problems with democracy, corruption and all the things you use for your sarcastic comments, but you have to put this things in the social and historical context. How many people do you know beside the Armenian that suffered such horrors, have been left alone without any kind of help, no compansation, no justice and no mercy and still stood up like a phoenix from the ashes ? dear bell, people like you are the reason why we suffered so much, ignorant and arrogant morons sitting in their safe houses and making chauvenistic comments just to feel superior.....
we in germany have a saying, it fits really good to you bell so allow me to post it:
WER IM GLASHAUS SITZT, SOLLTE NICHT MIT STEINEN WERFEN !

[Lucin]

Re: Gagik Tsarukyan

.dgbakhtabar worosh hayastanzi-hayere irenz more g@zakhein herik poghi hamar.....

Chem imanum... it seems to be so extreme, even if true it may apply to all peoples living under such dire conditions for many years.. But again, the most patriotic Armenians, generally speaking, are to be found in Armenia.

[gkv]

Re: Gagik Tsarukyan

Strange, I was thinking when I saw this thread that, based on your posts elsewhere, I had assumed you were a "support your local mafia" person.

Strange, based on your posts elsewhere (your denunciation of manichean views supposedly held by other members), I had assumed you had the ability to view reality in shades of grey, avoid labeling/categorizing people. Now it appears you suffer from the very flaw you are decrying. At least you have the merit of admitting it.

[gkv]

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all peoples living under such dire conditions for many years..

Dire conditions. BS excuse.

[Nozir]

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Hello, my second post after my introduction.... I currently live in Luxembourg and Germany, and read in a German newspaper a brief article about Armenian government expelleing German investors. It was about Tsarukyan and this guy mentioned in hetq.
Here is a new story:
German CEO Ready for Prolonged Legal Battle with Tsarukyan

Also found some nice videos on You Tube in Russian:

and

[Nozir]

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I had been reading the above article in Armenian, it tells a bit more than the English:

I would like to know your opinion, why do “we” (I count myself here as an Armenian despite I am no longer holding such a passport) have such an agency like this “Armenian Development Agency” when they do support Tsarukyan in expelling foreigners? Their website must be a fake?
According to an older BLOG article, a few years ago along with this guy there had been a big group of 30 European investors travelling to Armenia, seeking and looking around what type of business to do in Armenia. Instead of opening up a business in Armenia, they all turned away after they noticed how that German company got expelled by Tsarukyan and his obvious fellows.

In general I do not think that such stories will ever create a positive image of the country, but it seems to me that Armenians donīt care about that. To me, living outside both in Germany and Luxembourg (the latter a very small country) I realize the importantce of a good image a small country needs to have in the world.

What do you think?

[bell-the-cat]

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I would like to know your opinion, why do “we” (I count myself here as an Armenian despite I am no longer holding such a passport) have such an agency like this “Armenian Development Agency” when they do support Tsarukyan in expelling foreigners?

Tsarukyan has not been "expelling foreigners", he has been swindling shareholders out of their investments. Some of the shareholders just happened to be German, and who are able to access proper lawyers to fight their case and independent media to publicise it. The Armenian investors he also swindled did not have that advantage.

Maybe the story is new for you, but it has been ongoing for years. It was a result of this fine example of Dodi-think: "I own the majority share of the company - I want to own it all 'cos I'm an arrogant fxxxer and so want to be able to say I own it all. But I don't want to pay for it all. So I decide to issue new shares to replace the old ones, I make 2500 old shares equal 1 new share. I make the company directors decide that investors must have at least 2500 old shares in order to get 1 new share. I'm the only individual investor who owns more than 2500 old shares so I get ALL of the new shares and so now I own the whole company! Those unlucky to have just 2499 or less old shares find their shares are now worthless".

It was that easy (easy in Armenia anyways - might be different if you tried such a scam out in a country which is not run by criminals for criminals.)

[bell-the-cat]

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And he is such an ugly-looking individual - physically ugly, ugly sounding, with ugly gestures and demenour, surrounded by ugly people, living in ugly surroundings. Never has the "you are what you look" verdict been truer. But he would look just lovely when dangling from the end of a noosed rope thrown over the arched entrance of his ugly mansion.

[TomServo]

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And he is such an ugly-looking individual - physically ugly, ugly sounding, with ugly gestures and demenour, surrounded by ugly people, living in ugly surroundings. Never has the "you are what you look" verdict been truer. But he would look just lovely when dangling from the end of a noosed rope thrown over the arched entrance of his ugly mansion.

So true. He's an armwrestling champion though, so watch out, bell.