How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

[KanadaHye]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

That there was a flood that covered all of the Earth. Or that all of the animals came to exist at the same time? The timeline of things coming to exist. Or that the universe, the matter in it, or anything living was created by any supernatural being.
Or how to treat any of the health issues mentioned. Don't give me the time of the bible's writing as an excuse, if it's divinely inspired, the word or god, etc. then s/he would know how to treat them.
Or the paradox of evil and an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent deity.

One at a time....

Are you saying that scientists haven't concluded that there was a huge flood in the Abrahamic region of the world?

[Siggie]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

One at a time....

Are you saying that scientists haven't concluded that there was a huge flood in the Abrahamic region of the world?

Is there evidence of a worldwide flood that covered all of the land mass simultaneously?

[KanadaHye]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

Is there evidence of a worldwide flood that covered all of the land mass simultaneously?

Was there the ability for a person who lived through the great flood to monitor the entire planet? Were there satellites in orbit? Were they watching CNN for live coverage?

[KarotheGreat]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

I've heard this one and it's pretty funny. My guess is any animal that flew was considered a bird regardless of biological function. I mean, Linnaeus's classification of mammals wasn't around back then.

There is an entire website dealing with bible errancy...

http://errancy.org/

if they cannot get the small things right why should we believe their bigger claims? The book is either inspired by god or it isn't. If it is the first then such mistakes shouldn't be made. Or is it god that was wrong?

[Siggie]

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Was there the ability for a person who lived through the great flood to monitor the entire planet? Were there satellites in orbit? Were they watching CNN for live coverage?

So funny that you think only an eyewitness's account or video recording is evidence. No... There would be geological evidence; just as there is of other events. There just isn't any.

[KanadaHye]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

if they cannot get the small things right why should we believe their bigger claims? The book is either inspired by god or it isn't. If it is the first then such mistakes shouldn't be made. Or is it god that was wrong?

It consists of many books put together. Some which are real life accounts and others which aren't. The discrepancies between 2 or 3 people whose account of the same event may differ due to embellishment and/or recollection of the event.

I really don't know where the whole 'word of god' comes from. From what I understand, when god made a covenant with the people, he kept his word.

[Siggie]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

It consists of many books put together. Some which are real life accounts and others which aren't. The discrepancies between 2 or 3 people whose account of the same event may differ due to embellishment and/or recollection of the event.

I really don't know where the whole 'word of god' comes from. From what I understand, when god made a covenant with the people, he kept his word.

So your tolerance of error is much greater for the divinely inspired work than for the scientific literature (which by nature is at least self-correcting).
Interesting contrast with the likewise naive opinions you expressed here: http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....ion-Jobs/page2

[KanadaHye]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

So funny that you think only an eyewitness's account or video recording is evidence. No... There would be geological evidence; just as there is of other events. There just isn't any.

Huh? How was a person supposed to know whether or not the entire world flooded if they didn't have modern communication? Imagine if the levels of water in America rose 20 metres and the majority of people weren't prepared and got swept away and there was no TV or radio to report that the other continents were perfectly dry. I'd bet you the first words out of the survivors would be "the whole world flooded". I mean, for a country to call the final series of baseball "the world series" when the rest of the world isn't even competing in it, I'm sure it would be the "end of the world".

[Siggie]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

Huh? How was a person supposed to know whether or not the entire world flooded if they didn't have modern communication? Imagine if the levels of water in America rose 20 metres and the majority of people weren't prepared and got swept away and there was no TV or radio to report that the other continents were perfectly dry. I'd bet you the first words out of the survivors would be "the whole world flooded". I mean, for a country to call the final series of baseball "the world series" when the rest of the world isn't even competing in it, I'm sure it would be the "end of the world".

I wonder how we know that dinosaurs existed at one time and have since become extinct when they weren't able to utilize modern communication to tweet that fact. Damn this uncrackable mystery!

[KanadaHye]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

I wonder how we know that dinosaurs existed at one time and have since become extinct when they weren't able to utilize modern communication to tweet that fact. Damn this uncrackable mystery!

When you unearth dinosaur bones with your own two hands and assemble it to resemble a giant lizard, then you have the right to claim you have evidence. Until then, you are putting trust in blind faith.

Don't give me the "well if enough scientists and archeologists say so" reasoning either.