How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

[Siggie]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

<3 NdGT!! I attended a talk where he said some of the same, but he's a bit more focused here.

I agree with what ArmSurvival said. It's a need for answers.

We're still working out the mysteries. Believing that a creator did it does nothing but discourage inquiries for the truth.

I also have no problem with people wanting to believe in the christian god, islamic god, a turtle, russel's teapot, the fsm, or whatever. Where we have a problem is when any of these beliefs which are based entirely on faith (ie lacking evidence) lead to impositions on the rights of others.

[MrHyeSev]

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I don't know if you've read the Bible Siggie , but what evidence in your opinion does it lack?
Just curious

[Siggie]

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I don't know if you've read the Bible Siggie , but what evidence in your opinion does it lack?
Just curious

I have read it and I don't believe it to be a historically accurate book or the word of any deity, nor do I find it to be a particularly ethical book either. What it lacks is veracity.

You believe two pairs of all the species fit on an ark?

You believe that the whole Earth was covered by water in a massive flood?

You believe the whole of the universe including our solar system, our Earth, and all the living things on it were created in 6 days?

You believe the Earth to be less than 6000 years old?

You believe that a creator individually created each species alive?

You believe woman was made from the rib of a man?

You believe women are inferior to men?

You believe the cure for leprosy is bird's blood and chanting?

You believe owning slaves is okay?

You believe a woman should have to marry her rapist?

You believe that Sampson actually killed 1000 people with the jawbone of an @ss?

You believe Jesus was a zombie?

You believe you should kill me because I don't believe in your god?

...

I could go on, but you get the idea.

[MrHyeSev]

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What Bible did you read?
where in the Bible doe sit say Jesus was a zombie,You believe you should kill me because I don't believe in your god,You believe owning slaves is okay
please tel me those verses so I can read em

[One-Way]

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What Bible did you read?
where in the Bible doe sit say Jesus was a zombie,You believe you should kill me because I don't believe in your god,You believe owning slaves is okay
please tel me those verses so I can read em

Is it safe to say you agree with the rest, though?

[Siggie]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

What Bible did you read?
where in the Bible doe sit say Jesus was a zombie,You believe you should kill me because I don't believe in your god,You believe owning slaves is okay
please tel me those verses so I can read em

Jesus was a zombie? Umm... It's kind of the whole highlight of the new testament and the reason you celebrate Easter. Risen dead? You need a verse for that?

You don't recall reading about killing those who don't believe in your god?

Deuteronomy 17 "If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and inquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die."

Exodus 22:20 "He that sacrificeth unto any god save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed."

And just so you don't have to flip around too much for the many slave references, here's a couple from Exodus: 21:2 "... When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing." and 21:26-27 "When a man strikes the eye of his slave, male or female, and destroys it, he shall let the slave go free for the eye's sake. If he knocks out the tooth of his slave, male or female, he shall let the slave go free for the tooth's sake."

I forgot about the killing the gays too... Do you want that verse too?

Is it safe to say you agree with the rest, though?

Yes... You didn't mention the rest Pepsi. What about those? You do believe those?

[MrHyeSev]

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Siggie it doesn't say killing gays , it says homosexuality is a sin . if you really study it he never said kill gays, you can't twist the words in the Bible. Jesus hates the sin not the person
stil can't find where it sasy Jesus was a zombie hmm?

[jgk3]

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Siggie it doesn't say killing gays , it says homosexuality is a sin . if you really study it he never said kill gays, you can't twist the words in the Bible. Jesus hates the sin not the person
stil can't find where it sasy Jesus was a zombie hmm?

I don't think God wants you to kill gays, I think he wants you to not live with them, so that when he kills them you won't get caught in his rampage like Lot almost did.

[MrHyeSev]

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I don't think God wants you to kill gays, I think he wants you to not live with them, so that when he kills them you won't get caught in his rampage like Lot almost did.

jgk3 who said anything about killing gays, I don't know where you come up with that conclusion, no where in the Bible does it say to kill gays so get your facts straight before laughing for no reason.

[MrHyeSev]

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Look so you don't go first

I don't think God wants you to kill gays, I think he wants you to not live with them, so that when he kills them you won't get caught in his rampage like Lot almost did.