How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

[KanadaHye]

Re: How Much of the Bible Must Be Historical to Believe?

One of his teachings was to love your enemies. Do you seriously want people in Armenia to put this into practice?

They already do with Russia... so what's your point?

How does a reference to money & 9/11 validate your claim that all dinosaur fossils are fabricated?

Your reasoning for the claim that they can't possibly be fabricated because somebody would blow the whistle relies on the belief that someone who isn't corrupt would eventually expose the scam. If you were being granted large sums of money for traveling to parts of the world, how much would you be willing to bend the truth?

[KanadaHye]

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Mos you really are sounding more and more like a muslim man. All this bs about insulting the religion of the armenians sounds just like the xxxx going down in the muslim world today. Hell atleast the muslims were truely insulted unlike here where chrystianity is simply being put to the test of reason. It is not our fault that the crap you believe in is not supported by facts. Just because most armenians(or xxxs or indians or martiants) believe something does not mean that something is true. You get to the truth by questioning things and only the things that hold up are the things you can have some degree of confidence in.

You're sounding more and more like a J3w....

[Haykakan]

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Mos you really are sounding more and more like a muslim man. All this bs about insulting the religion of the armenians sounds just like the xxxx going down in the muslim world today. Hell atleast the muslims were truely insulted unlike here where chrystianity is simply being put to the test of reason. It is not our fault that the crap you believe in is not supported by facts. Just because most armenians(or xxxs or indians or martiants) believe something does not mean that something is true. You get to the truth by questioning things and only the things that hold up are the things you can have some degree of confidence in.

[ArmSurvival]

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It's all about the money, money, money. When is the truth about 9/11 going to come to light? Just wondering.

How does a reference to money & 9/11 validate your claim that all dinosaur fossils are fabricated?

The core of the bible, the fundamental part of the Bible from which the cornerstone of Christianity was laid is in the New Testament, more specifically with the teachings of Jesus. So if you want to argue against Christianity then you have to talk about those teachings.

One of his teachings was to love your enemies. Do you seriously want people in Armenia to put this into practice?

And as far as I know Jesus never condemned slavery, he seems to have accepted it as part of life. I would think somebody with divine instruction would have the foresight and bravery to condemn such an abhorring practice.

There's also "turn the other cheek" which basically promotes sadomasochism. Should Armenians practice that with Azeris?

The Old Testament contained so much violence, intolerance, sadism, rape and genocide, but at least you could die in the Old Testament world and be done with it. Jesus came along and said that if we don't believe his word then not only would we suffer in life but we would burn in fire for eternity. That sounds neither reasonable nor loving. And I don't know about you but I would not allow somebody to talk to me like that.

I'm not saying the guy only taught bad things, but don't tell me he's the son of god. We have examples of many humans with a better moral compass, not just today but during his time and even before him.

[One-Way]

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Would you like to join me in a headdesk?

I am reminded of a quote from The Dark Knight, which doesn't really apply, but part of it does. So, I'll post that part.

"Some men aren't looking for anything logical..."

[Artashes]

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The Vatican has two observatories with pope scientists.....not open to public and not limited by budget or time in search of....

When I initially looked into the "HAARP" project I realized I had to look into "multi - national corporations".
I " modeled" multi-national corporations" such that there was a shape but had no name(s).
That's when the catholic church(vatican) came into my view.
Artashes

[Eddo211]

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The Vatican has two observatories with pope scientists.....not open to public and not limited by budget or time in search of....

[KanadaHye]

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Studies are showing that much of the Old Testament is probably based on fact.

I'm not aware of such studies. Can you share some, please?

I suggest reading this, it's only 600 pages

[Eddo211]

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Some say the bible has no expiration date, however science books change every so many years.

There is no doubt that the science and religion overlap each other.....and it does that inside of a human being, with his/her own religion and science.

[Mos]

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Criticism is not insult! Is there supposed to be no questioning of anything religious? No discussion? No dialogue? Religion is exempt from the application of any critical thought?

It's not an insult to question the veracity of a book written by men who believed the world was flat and that Earth was the center of the universe. It's a sign that the synapses are firing.

If you go over the thread, there have been insulting things said.

Don't paint it as if the bible's purpose is to describe the earth and physical features of our environment. The core of the bible, the fundamental part of the Bible from which the cornerstone of Christianity was laid is in the New Testament, more specifically with the teachings of Jesus. So if you want to argue against Christianity then you have to talk about those teachings.

For example, one of the most quoted and famous sayings from the New Testament:

"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4How can you say to your brother, `Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." Matthew 7:1-11

Yet so many people violate this principle daily (including me)...but it's desire to live up to such principles and to recognize the Holy importance of them in your life.