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  • #11
    i think what he means by soviet writing, is the writing being used in armenia and such, which was changed during soviet times, from the original writing, to what is used now.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by anileve I welcome your explanation of what you consider soviet writing? Slang is completely separate from soviet writing or speaking. You can claim that it's Russianized for example marojni and paxpaxak. But other than that, the initial and literary Eastern is as pure as Armenian can be and not similar to the western twisted structure (HA!)....OOoo I see steam rising from Baronchiks eyes and ears. Vay tsava tanem!

      By the way did you take a look at my post in the new forum?
      Soviet spelling, I should've said.

      Like writing last names with a "hi" (the letter that looks like a 3 in capital, and a j in non capital) instead of a yech. Or writing "ser" with a yech, and not an e. This was all a result of Stalin's plot to widen the gap between Diaspora and Armenia. The new spelling rule was applied overnight in 1921 or 1922. Leading Armenian linguists, like the genius Hrachia Ajarian, weren't even consulted. That is why Ajarian always signed his name as "Hrachia Ajar." ever since the change took effect.

      It is also the reason why the Armenian language is at a standstill right now, because with the change of spelling, words have lost their etimology (I think that's the word) and creating new words becomes almost impossible. The academicians of Armenia today still refuse to even talk about this subject....but a switch back would be vital for our language's survival.

      That's what I meant.

      Also, both structures were created about 150 years ago, and were based on the regional dialects...therefore both are purely Armenian (though western has closer links with grabar).

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      • #13
        I like the Western spelling and pronounciation better than the Eastern one.. I don't know.. I've read/heard both. My mom actually writes/speaks both. lol...

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        • #14
          How do I pronounce "gna"?

          Is it like "gnat" without the t?

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          • #15
            khent- crazy
            abush-stupid
            esh-donkey
            gabig-monkey

            let me know when u learn those words....so i could add more!lol

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            • #16
              Originally posted by clubbin714 How do I pronounce "gna"?

              Is it like "gnat" without the t?
              guh-nah, i think. but with the first syllable quickly.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Baron Dants
                This was all a result of Stalin's plot to widen the gap between Diaspora and Armenia. The new spelling rule was applied overnight in 1921 or 1922.
                Well aren't we an expert in linguistics. Interestingly enough you claimed a while back how the Soviet era had a positive impact on our culture and gave rise to the Armenian Literature, something we disagreed on. Now you are stating the obvious glitch in your reasoning, by pointing out the intentional widening of the gap between Diaspora and Armenia, and the disintegration of the Armenian language caused by the ingenious ideas of the Soviet Party (let it burn in hell). Words might have lost their etymology true, but that is also inevitable due to the continuous influences of empires that have slashed through Armenia. By the way can you find that thread?

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                • #18
                  Well, whether or not it was good for our literature is irrelevant.. the point is, "ser" is written with an "eh", not a yech.. and verbs end in 'eh', not yech....

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by anileve We'll need Baronchik's help for this one.

                    Ay axchi ckBejug, es inch baneres sovoratsnum es txun? Vay! Hents nor es txen ira eresa tsuyts tvets du iran arten vzitses brnel. Lakoti meka. :P Baron I don't even think that could be translated into western Armenian equivalently, bayts motavorapes...
                    Yete gartayir keradznere, toon al nooyn panere ge sorvetsneyir iren.

                    I like to play around with girls? Yeah. lol

                    The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by ckBejug Yete gartayir keradznere, toon al nooyn panere ge sorvetsneyir iren.
                      Chgitem, orinak yes ksovoratsneyr iran asenk:

                      "Yes minchev hima yeregha em. Yes khaghaliq shat em sirum. Yes kanayk antanrapes chem haskanum buyts indz tvuma hakaraka."

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