Forgiveness and family

[loseyourname]

Originally posted by whitelotus do you know that most cases of domestic violence, abuse, harasment, or rape is at home, or in peoples familys (close and extended)

Domestic violence is defined as violent crimes that take place within the home, silly girl.

[whitelotus]

okay, thats what i meant anyway

so what makes me silly ?

there is so much domestic violence going on, but we are supposed to respect and love the familys that do them ? just because they gave birth to you ? they also beat you to a bloody pulp everyday, so where does the respect issue come in ?

not saying this happens to me or anything, but it does to some people here that im not going to mention.

[Crimson Glow]

Originally posted by Darorinag I don't believe in family obligation and blood ties coming in the way of dealing with abusive parents.

Precisely, Dar. I'd like to expand upon this idea by sharing a simple philosophy I have: Anyone can pop out children, but not everyone can be a PARENT. F***ing around, getting pregnant, and bearing children somehow gives you God like status over your offspring in your eyes, Pasamonster? "Never look down upon thy Lord, for He is your father". Sorry, but I'm not playing Jesus and forgiving people for their wrong doings. Anyone who repeatedly and consciously commits moral injustice by the standards that I willfully adhere to, can as I said before, f*** off and die. To me, the concept of "it's different with family" sounds a bit .... ohhhh ... hmmm ... what's the word I'm looking for....RETARDED!

I've spent the last 10 or so years of my life trying to decipher the codes that make up this matrix we are all a part of. The vast majority of our behavior and patterns of thinking, be they cultural, environmental, or genetic, have been subconsciously programmed into us since birth, generation after generation. Building upon repeated cycles, the sequences have become a part of what is today considered our "normal", everyday lives. We are in fact living in an invisible prison, a prison you can not see, or taste, or touch. The proper behavior for genders (i.e. the gay thread), our bench marks for intelligence (i.e. intelligence thread), what is and isn't deemed acceptable by societies rules (i.e. the topic of this thread)....our "choices" and decisions on answers for every subject we deal with on a daily basis is subject to the program, weather you realize it or not.

For those of you who don't think this makes any sense, or are confused, it's quite understandable. As I said, this has been a process in the making since the beginning of man and his confusion as to his place in the world. So it is hard to grasp a concept of such grandeur which threatens to crumble the very foundation you stand on. But it is only through facing the cold hard fact we are prisoners that we can start the process of "unplugging". The awakening is a long, painful progression, but after realizing the truth, I wouldn't want it any other way.

"I can't go back, can I?" - Neo
"No. But even if you could, would you want to?" - Morpheus

[Darorinag]

Amen, Crimson Glow. Very well said. I agree with everything you said. I couldn't have said it any better.

Parents, especially Armenian parents, think they are the "Jesus" in the life of the child... so anything they do would be right in their opinion. Well, f*ck that. Not denying that there are great parents out there, but a lot of parents are seriously f*cked up in the head.

[spiral]

Originally posted by Crimson Glow
The vast majority of our behavior and patterns of thinking, be they cultural, environmental, or genetic, have been subconsciously programmed into us since birth, generation after generation. Building upon repeated cycles, the sequences have become a part of what is today considered our "normal", everyday lives. We are in fact living in an invisible prison, a prison you can not see, or taste, or touch. The proper behavior for genders (i.e. the gay thread), our bench marks for intelligence (i.e. intelligence thread), what is and isn't deemed acceptable by societies rules (i.e. the topic of this thread)....our "choices" and decisions on answers for every subject we deal with on a daily basis is subject to the program, weather you realize it or not.

Does it matter?

who are you arguing against?

who are you blaming for the 'fact' that we are living in an invisible prison with set dogmas?

[Crimson Glow]

Originally posted by spiral

Does it matter?

who are you arguing against?

who are you blaming for the 'fact' that we are living in an invisible prison with set dogmas?

Uhhhh......I'm not arguing against anyone, nor am I interested in playing the blame game for something for which finding the source would be a fruitless venture. I'm simply saying WAKE UP! And that some of us don't care to be imprisoned within these rules, but rather we make our decisions with clear, unclouded minds. It's a bit too late and pointless to find the origin of these dogmas. Not sure how or why you got the idea that this is what I was driving at, or that I was suggesting otherwise. My point was to break them, not find their ancestry (i.e. you must forgive family no matter what they do; they are your blood) <--- stupid rule/dogma, not interested in following it. Unplug. Simple enough?

[whitelotus]

be careful not to electricute yourself :P