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  • #141
    Originally posted by loseyourname Why not keep the question open then? Maybe he exists, maybe he doesn't. Don't base a solid belief system on the assertion that he does and is the only means to salvation.
    Yeah right! why not keep the question open? What is the oldest book on this earth? I know I just put you in a very hard situation but its clearly seen.
    Bible is the oldest book. Everyday the sum is increasing and why? That’s hard question to be answered.
    Bible proves that Jesus is exsists. IF PEOPLE were to read the Bible from cover to cover without any preconceived idea of a Trinity, would they arrive at such a concept on their own? Not at all. What comes through very clearly to an impartial reader is that God alone is the Almighty, the Creator, separate and distinct from anyone else, and that Jesus, even in his prehuman existence, is also separate and distinct, a created being, subordinate to God.
    WHILE on earth, Jesus was a human, although a perfect one because it was God who transferred the life-force of Jesus to the womb of Mary. (Matthew 1:18-25) But that is not how he began. He himself declared that he had "descended from heaven." (John 3:13) So it was only natural that he would later say to his followers: "What if you should see the Son of man [Jesus] ascend to where he was before?"—John 6:62, NJB.
    Thus, Jesus had an existence in heaven before coming to the earth. But was it as one of the persons in an almighty, eternal triune Godhead? No, for the Bible plainly states that in his prehuman existence, Jesus was a created spirit being, just as angels were spirit beings created by God. Neither the angels nor Jesus had existed before their creation
    Jesus, in his prehuman existence, was "the first-born of all creation." (Colossians 1:15, NJB) He was "the beginning of God's creation." (Revelation 3:14, RS, Catholic edition). "Beginning" [Greek, ar·khe'] cannot rightly be interpreted to mean that Jesus was the 'beginner' of God's creation. In his Bible writings, John uses various forms of the Greek word ar·khe' more than 20 times, and these always have the common meaning of "beginning." Yes, Jesus was created by God as the beginning of God's invisible creations.
    I AM EXIST TOO!
    I can make you sleep with my NATURE Look

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    • #142
      Re: Re: Re: Re: Jesus Loves You

      Originally posted by dusken You just proved it. However, the nature of my existence may not be defined.
      No, it could be you, and not him, given you have alter egos.
      Achkerov kute.

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      • #143
        Originally posted by G_spawn_J What is the oldest book on this earth? I know I just put you in a very hard situation but its clearly seen. Bible is the oldest book.
        Honestly I am not sure what is the oldest book. However, it is not the New Testament, and the Old Testament has nothing to do with Jesus. Matthew and John are of the New Testament.

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        • #144
          Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jesus Loves You

          Originally posted by Anonymouse No, it could be you, and not him, given you have alter egos.
          I think you are getting progressively stupider. You should get yourself checked out.

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          • #145
            Originally posted by dusken Honestly I am not sure what is the oldest book. However, it is not the New Testament, and the Old Testament has nothing to do with Jesus. Matthew and John are of the New Testament.

            My Dear,you just lost the sense of your knowledge by comparing between old and new tastament. How can you prove the new tastament if you dont have the old one.
            The Bible is the oldest book ever written, parts of it being composed some 3,500 years ago. It is many centuries older than any other book considered sacred. The first of the 66 books that it contains was written about a thousand years before Buddha and Confucius and some two thousand years before Muhammad.

            The history recorded in the Bible goes back to the beginning of the human family and explains how we came to be here on earth. It even takes us back to the time before humans were created, giving us facts about the formation of the earth.

            Other religious books, and nonreligious ones too, have only a few copies of their old manuscripts left in existence. About 11,000 handwritten copies of the Bible or parts of it exist in Hebrew and Greek, some of which date from close to the time of the original writing. These have survived even though the most concentrated onslaughts imaginable have been attempted against the Bible
            Also, the Bible is by far the most widely distributed book in history. About three billion Bibles or parts of it have been distributed in some two thousand languages. It is said that 98 percent of the human family have access to the Bible in their own language. No other book comes close to that circulation.
            In addition, no other ancient book compares with the Bible in accuracy. Scientists, historians, archaeologists, geographers, language experts, and others continually verify Bible accounts
            Thank You
            I can make you sleep with my NATURE Look

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            • #146
              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jesus Loves You

              Originally posted by dusken I think you are getting progressively stupider. You should get yourself checked out.
              Just leave him be. If he must resort to questioning your existence to keep his religion alive and has to question the Gregorian calendar to debunk Darwinism, I don't think there is anything anybody can do to reduce him any further. He's already a walking joke.

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              • #147
                Originally posted by G_spawn_J My Dear,you just lost the sense of your knowledge by comparing between old and new tastament. How can you prove the new tastament if you dont have the old one. Blah blah blah...
                Apparently you are a moron. This thread is about Jesus. You are giving historical credibility by saying the Bible is the oldest book but the portion of the Bible that mentions Jesus is nowhere near being the oldest book; Homer wrote long before it. And the old testament could not have been begun before the Jews ripped off the idea of a single God from the Egyptians. We will ignore the fact that you feel the Bible is a historical record because someone else told you it was.
                Last edited by dusken; 03-29-2004, 11:40 AM.

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                • #148
                  Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jesus Loves You

                  Originally posted by dusken I think you are getting progressively stupider. You should get yourself checked out.
                  You think too much dont you? and are you here to judge?
                  who the hell you think i am to change my self? do never believe for the fact you can change yourself
                  Gaining knowledge or beeing good person doesnt mean you are changing yourself !

                  The word of Wisdom. Do never blab for something you donno!
                  I can make you sleep with my NATURE Look

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                  • #149
                    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jesus Loves You

                    Originally posted by G_spawn_J You think too much dont you? and are you here to judge?
                    who the hell you think i am to change my self? do never believe for the fact you can change yourself
                    Gaining knowledge or beeing good person doesnt mean you are changing yourself !

                    The word of Wisdom. Do never blab for something you donno!
                    Actually, as a genius, I am on par with how much thinking I should be doing.

                    Also, I was not posting to you, crackwipe. I quoted the mouse.

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                    • #150
                      Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Jesus Loves You

                      Indeed dusken, I see that you and loseyourname were talking about the mouse. I apologize for my idiocy.
                      Last edited by loseyourname; 03-29-2004, 11:51 AM.
                      I can make you sleep with my NATURE Look

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