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    Muslim

    I got this as an e-mail from a friend, I thought it was interesting and wanted to share with you guys. What do you think?


    This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well known leader in prison ministry:

    Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their belief systems. I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers. When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If hat's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?" There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!" I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?" The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes." I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven!" The Imam was speechless. I continued, "I also have problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be with me?" You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.
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    Then I'd walk in and laugh at both of 'em for even talking about this.

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    • #3
      By reading the above I am thinking of converting to Zoroastrianism.
      Achkerov kute.

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      • #4
        Is this really a belief of the Muslim faith? I mean, I have heard of it, but I always figured that it was either a rumor or a misinterpretation of the Koran.

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          I dont know yet Flames but I am looking into it. I believe it is a faith of the past time however some believers are still followers.

          Hogg, they would either laugh at you back, kill you, or beat the living sh*t out of you. (Whichever THEY prefer)

          Anonymouse, what is Zoroastrianism?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DvlzAdvocate
            Anonymouse, what is Zoroastrianism?
            I didn't know either, but this is what dictionary.com spat out.

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            • #7
              If I ever become religious, there is no question that I will be either Buddhist, or if I am feeling hardcore enough, a Jain.

              Religion makes me sick sometimes. Just be a good person. Not because it will get you into heaven, but because it's the right thing to do.

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              • #8
                this e-mail is completely not true...its just BS propoganda to make people hate muslims even more, like we dont have enough hate in this world.
                One of my very close friends is Muslim and I even asked her about it, she told me that nowhere in the Koran does it say that everyone who isnt Muslim should be killed...this is just a stupid message that has been stretched to far by terrorists to get others to join their cause and sacrifice their own lives to kill others.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by loseyourname
                  If I ever become religious, there is no question that I will be either Buddhist, or if I am feeling hardcore enough, a Jain.

                  Religion makes me sick sometimes. Just be a good person. Not because it will get you into heaven, but because it's the right thing to do.
                  But loser you do not understand any religion if that is what you believe, for the purpose of all religion is an ethic, the purpose of an ethic is foster humility. These are perversions.
                  Achkerov kute.

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                  • #10
                    All right, let me clarify then. It isn't the idea of religion that makes me sick. It is the current state, and the historical state, of religion, that sickens me. It is a decent concept gone terribly wrong. It's hard to call it a perversion when it is very nearly the norm.

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