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Originally posted by Darorinag
What exactly does seeing a genocide happen and not doing anything even though you can, and aren't exactly scared of doing it (so that's not an excuse), mean? 
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So then everyone is at fault. Every country who could have done something is at fault? England, France, Russia? Sure the US was at fault for not really doing anything, but that's not a blessing. They didn't approve of it or else they would have went in there and helped the turks, or give them weapons, or express how happy they were that it was going on. Just because they didn't do much doesn't mean the turks did it under the US's blessing. -
Yes, they are at fault. Obviously. They were witness to the genocide and did nothing to stop it. To add insult to injury, the U.K. and U.S.A keep denying it up to this day.
If they didn't approve of it, they would've gone in there and helped the Armenians.Sure the US was at fault for not really doing anything, but that's not a blessing. They didn't approve of it or else they would have went in there and helped the turks, or give them weapons, or express how happy they were that it was going on. To be silent is to be complicit.
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The US was neutral at the time. Wilson sure didn't approve of what was happening to the Armenians. He was very sympathetic towards them and their situation. He wanted a mandate for Armenia. The president of the US made some sort of an effort to do something to help the Armenian people, better than what the turks did, wouldn't you say?Comment
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This is going nowhere. I think my position is clear. Your point is null and void. The U.S. has always been "neutral" when it comes to people being massacred.
Anyway, I made my views very clear. If you have any argument against it based on historical facts, be my guest. Otherwise, I'm done with this thread for now.
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My point isn't null and void, it's a valid point. I provided the historical facts. Based on the facts itself, turkey did more harm than the US. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't make it void.Comment
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How do you know that Turkey did more harm than the U.S? Just because it was active and the U.S was passive?
Your point is null and void not because I disagree, but because it is null and void. Just because you think it's not null and void doesn't mean it's not null and void.Comment
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Uhh, maybe because the turks are the ones who actually committed the atrocities? Yeah that would pretty much qualify them as doing more harm as they're the actual ones who carried it out with the intent to wipe out a nation. My point is not null and void because i'm actually making some sense here, and all you're doing is blaming everyone else and sight and then claiming my argument is void. You're looking to blame everyone else, but somehow you act as if the turks didn't do such a bad thing, like turkey was a misguided child and didn't know any better, but it was up to everyone else to stop them. Start making some sense.Originally posted by DarorinagComment
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I'm blaming all those who should be blamed. I never said U.S.A is more to blame than Turkey. They should all be blamed equally. Like I said, to be silent is to be complicit. To deny it is to be complicit. Did I ever say the Turks never did a bad thing????!? Jesus Christ... Talk about twisting words.. Where did I say Turkey was a misguided child and didn't know any better? That's so much about your credibility. I'm done with you.
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My credibility is still intact, yours was lost the moment you agreed that going around waving the turkish flag on april 24th wasn't such a bad idea. You seem too focused on blaming others and then if there is time left over, blaming turkey. All you did was focus on how everyone else did such a bad thing by not doing anything.Originally posted by DarorinagI'm blaming all those who should be blamed. I never said U.S.A is more to blame than Turkey. They should all be blamed equally. Like I said, to be silent is to be complicit. To deny it is to be complicit. Did I ever say the Turks never did a bad thing????!? Jesus Christ... Talk about twisting words.. Where did I say Turkey was a misguided child and didn't know any better? That's so much about your credibility. I'm done with you.
Yeah, you act as if turkey was misguided and didn't know fully what the hell they were doing and it was everyone elses fault for "letting it happen", not mostly turkeys. You're trying to blame the others too much, blame turkey who is responsible and the most at fault.
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I never said it's not a bad idea. I said it's the lesser of both evils. There goes another one of your word-twisting stunts.
Where did I say that? If you're going to interpret what I say however you want, then I'm afraid that's your problem, not mine.Yeah, you act as if turkey was misguided and didn't know fully what the hell they were doing and it was everyone elses fault for "letting it happen", not mostly turkeys.Comment
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