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  • #51
    Today, 02:07 PM #48
    firattuncbas
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    What is your problem turk bibishim, why ru posting my messages over again?
    do you want me to start hating turks again??

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    • #52
      Relax, Tres. He was just trying to quote you and messed up the tags. I fixed it.

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      • #53
        ok there wasnt anything written by him first...so...anyway..yeah turks are nationalists and a bit racist too!!!!!

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Tres Bien
          ok there wasnt anything written by him first...so...anyway..yeah turks are nationalists and a bit racist too!!!!!
          how can u generalize like that?
          saying a whole nationality is racist makes no more sense than saying a whole country is bald.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by patlajan
            This is just silly. Armenians along with Kurds and anybody else they didn't like were killed to make room for nationalism. A turkish state for turks and no one else. The principals are the same.
            Ironicly most turks today don't like nationalism. That's like a subtle "I'm sorry" if you ask me.
            dude, how many times do i gotta say this.. ataturk had NOTHING to do with the gencturks. & he was not a leader who represented the ottomans. if anything, he became a leader in reaction to the ottamans. i challenge u to find one piece of reliable information which states that Kemal Ataturk ever did any harm to Armenians, Kurds, or anybody. thats a challenge. & until u can find this information, stop with ur unfounded accusations & fingerpointing.

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            • #56
              Many high-level officials of the Young Turks were recycled into Ataturk's party.
              You should read Taner Akçam's book.
              I had a greak link for you, but the site's in reconstruction until July.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Baron Dants
                Many high-level officials of the Young Turks were recycled into Ataturk's party.
                You should read Taner Akçam's book.
                I had a greak link for you, but the site's in reconstruction until July.
                i believe u dantso, but the question remains: did Ataturk harm any Armenians? & it remains still unanswered..

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                • #58
                  One has to think that the reason why contemporary Turks deny the genocide is because of the administrations following the Young Turks.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by ardenik
                    i believe u dantso, but the question remains: did Ataturk harm any Armenians? & it remains still unanswered..
                    Ataturk's position towards Armenians remains enigmatic. While he condemned the genocide, and condemned those that organized it, there is no question that the genocidal campaign still continued when he was in power.

                    My opinion would be that his words of condemnation were just eye-candy for the European powers, with whom Ataturk wanted to be buddies with. If Ataturk were truly serious in his condemnations and actions, we wouldn't be in this situation today.

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                    • #60
                      He started the state denial, thats enough. Also his reaction to the Greeks, and the way he was still hunting down Armenians when he took over.hmm.

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