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Overpopulation: Fact or Fiction?

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  • #11
    I split this thread for you guys to continue that discussion in here, not Love and Romance. Thanks!
    The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

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    • #12
      Who's not a moderator now?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Anonymouse
        Economics shows that man, with limited resources, can accomodate a growing population, due to the free market. After all, that was what capitalism proved.
        Man cannot accomodate a growing population with limited resources forever. That is fairly self-evident. Read back to what I initially said - the ecological footprint is unsustainable. It is currently larger than the amount of land-mass available per person on the entire planet. I'll get back to this later when I can gather up some numbers. Until then, I'll just ask again if you even know what an ecological footprint is.

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        • #14
          Its easy get rid of the lesser races, hahaha just kidding.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by loseyourname
            Man cannot accomodate a growing population with limited resources forever. That is fairly self-evident. Read back to what I initially said - the ecological footprint is unsustainable. It is currently larger than the amount of land-mass available per person on the entire planet. I'll get back to this later when I can gather up some numbers. Until then, I'll just ask again if you even know what an ecological footprint is.
            Given the free market and continued calls for seeking new means and technology man has always sought to transform his surroundings, otherwise we would be extinct. The presumptions of ecologists if anything have a Malthusian slant. You keep drilling about ecological footprints yet you do not explain but in an effort to display your pompous arrogance and 'knowledge', of somehow "knowing it" and displaying your intellectual depth you pretend to engage in a discussion of "do you know what an ecological footprint is?".

            Apparently, I do not, but neither do you know of economics and went as far as to state economics is the study of financial transactions. Since I do not know about ecological footprints I do not comment, but that didn't deter you from saying what economics is, eh?

            I have not seen anything new in your stance, and it looks like another neo-Malthusian rehash cloaked under the mantle of 'ecology'. The argument is the same – if resources are finite and we continue to deplete then at an ever increasing rate, then at some point in time we will run out – in this case sooner rather than later. For example, regarding oil, nuclear power can clearly solve the problem.

            For example with oil, fossil fuels do become more scarce and expensive, it will just increase the market incentive toward decentralization and smaller scale production. Society will move more toward local production, if it weren't for the monstrous subsidies to centralization. Oil consumption will drop as prices rise, and prices will rise as supply goes down.

            It won't be the case that all the oil just "runs out" one day. Prices will go up and up as supply dwindles. Consumption will go down. People will alter their production processes in order to use less oil. People will try to develop other ways of powering their devices. All of this will go on spontaneously and all over the place, without any need for a "government policy". Unfortunately, it is the energy policies of the various governments of the world that pose the real "peak energy" threat. For one thing, by monopolizing energy production in so many ways.

            This problem is more political than anything, but getting this technology out to use is a problem that the environmentalists cannot fathom. The arguments against the use of modern nuclear power technology on the basis of Chernobyl make about as much sense as refusing to consider buying a Lexus because you once owned a Yugo.
            Achkerov kute.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by loseyourname
              this is a truly brilliant idea.
              I agree. The more Armenians we bring to the world, the better.

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              • #17
                haha all this talk about armenians and breeding makes me wanna wear a shirt that says: "kiss me, i'm armenian" or (similar to the one madonna wore in one of her 80's videos) "armenians do it better" ....

                btw, wasn't that guy eye popping GORGEOUS? haha..it was 'papa don't preach'....he was sooo hot!! he's 40+ now i suppose

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                • #18
                  El haves unek esence baneri masin zerutselu??/.. ekenk genank mihat lav ghorovats anenk, mi kani bajak ghemenk.. yev syo... ameninch ira tegh@ kengeni... haha..
                  How do you hurt a masochist?
                  -By leaving him alone.Forever.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by gevo
                    El haves unek esence baneri masin zerutselu??/.. ekenk genank mihat lav ghorovats anenk, mi kani bajak ghemenk.. yev syo... ameninch ira tegh@ kengeni... haha..
                    *shoots herself*

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by loseyourname
                      In a world where the global ecological footprint is already unsustainable, this is a truly brilliant idea.

                      U dont need to worry about ur nation, since u dont care. U can live ur life without having children. If u were born armenian then u would realize what I mean. And dude dont understand whatever I wirte literally, for example when I say ten kids, that doesnt mean exactly ten, but I'd like to have at least three.

                      P.S. Im so touched though, so much attention on me by you

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