Kerry, Bush and Armenians

[HyeJinx1984]

For a long time I was wondering if a majority of Armenians are Republican or Democratic. At first you'd think democrat because usually democrats cater to the needs of minorities, but I've notices that a very good portion of Armenians (that I know anyway) are Republicans. Thoughts?

Also, a lot of the Armenians I know are putting down Kerry and rooting for Bush. Well.. read this ANCA Endorses John Kerry for President

I was shocked when I read this stuff myself, so I'm not too hard on Armenians who wanted to vote for the cowboy before... but honestly, any Armenian who reads this and is still pro-bush absolutely sickens me... and I hope that doesn't include any of you.

[Anonymouse]

Screw political divisiveness and moronic Armenians that think either party will grant them political brownie points. No such thing exists. The Genocide is a dead end, so long as Turkey and Israel are allowed to eat at the dinner table.

[Darorinag]

Oh no, not another thread about Kerry, Bush, and Armenians.

any Armenian who reads this and is still pro-bush absolutely sickens me...

We could always argue on the following lines too:

Any Armenian who supports terrorist-supporting leftards (especially in light of the bombing of the Armenian church by fundamentalist Muslims in Iraq) absolutely sickens me...


Yeah..


Yeah again...

[HyeJinx1984]

Personally I consider myself an independant cause I think both parties are full of xxxx, but I'm not talking about who's better, the republicans and the democrats and don't turn it into that. As a singular person, George W. Bush has been horrible when it comes to Armenian issues, plain and simple. Don't turn this into another thread about Israel. This has to do with Bush as a person, would you vote for someone who promised something to the Armenian community then broke those promises? Both of you skirted answering that question so you could have fun bashing Israel again.. and that's not what this thread is about, so please don't turn it into that. Most Armenians don't know Bush made promises and then broke them, people like my father who are so pro-bush, not knowing Bush isn't exactly pro-Armenian.

[Darorinag]

Why shouldn't we be able to mention Israel - the root of the Armenian genocide denial problem? How can you expect to find a solution to this issue when you refuse to take a look at the whole issue, without leaving out parts that you think are inappropriate or unrelated?

Any Armenian who justifies his voting for Kerry as being the result of Bush's bad record, is an idiot, and deserves to be called that. Neither of us argued IN FAVOUR of voting for Bush... so what is your point??? Bush WAS pro-Armenian before the election. Read this, also from ANCA. So what makes you sure that Kerry wouldn't do the same thing? How can you endorse Kerry, not knowing his REAL stance on the Armenian issue? What Armenians fail to understand is that American politics is not about *a* man, it's about a drawn plan and certain policies.

[HyeJinx1984]

I think the reason I rarely get into political conversations with other armenians is that they explode and get overly passionate about certain things and not focus on what it is I'm trying to talk about. I KNOW Israel has a lot to do with the Armenian Genocide not being recognized. Now, I never said "don't vote for bush, vote for Kerry" I'm just saying "Personal A said he would help our people and didn't, not only didn't he, but he made things worse. Would you vote for person A again or not?" and copmlicating it any further than that for the purpose of THIS discussion is ridiculous. I know you wanna branch out and talk about the intricasies between nations of keeping the genocide secret... god bless you, let's open up a new thread and talk about that. The goal of this one is simply to expose Bushes lies to US to these hard headed Armenians (again, like my father) who blindedly root for Bush, not realizing he has zero loyalty to our needs.

Now, again, I'm not saying vote for Kerry instead, however since you asked why I think Kerry would be better then Bush, here are just few thoughts off the top of my head. 1, Kerry's wife is a foreigner which makes me believe that he'd be more inclined to sympathize with the needs of minorities within the country rather than that beedy eyed white boy from texas who probably grew up making "n!gger" jokes (just a hunch). 2, Kerry has ALREADY shown a trend of helping Armenian related issues listed in that link... he's not just SAYING he's going to help, he's already doing it.

[Darorinag]

I'm just saying "Personal A said he would help our people and didn't, not only didn't he, but he made things worse. Would you vote for person A again or not?" and copmlicating it any further than that for the purpose of THIS discussion is ridiculous.

Umm, so then why have Kerry in the title or the whole discussion anyway? If you're not trying to imply that since Bush is bad, Kerry must be good? Just because one is bad doesn't mean the other is good. But you're gonna say - but he might be better! Better my a$$.

As for your reasons for voting for Kerry:

1. LOL! N*gger jokes.. lmao.. yeah, and Kerry would do what? Make white trash jokes? Because he's supportive of affirmative action (read: discrimination)... etc. etc. no need to go there..
2. A trend BEFORE elections does not predict a trend AFTER elections...

[Anonymouse]

Personally I consider myself an independant cause I think both parties are full of xxxx, but I'm not talking about who's better, the republicans and the democrats and don't turn it into that. As a singular person, George W. Bush has been horrible when it comes to Armenian issues, plain and simple. Don't turn this into another thread about Israel. This has to do with Bush as a person, would you vote for someone who promised something to the Armenian community then broke those promises? Both of you skirted answering that question so you could have fun bashing Israel again.. and that's not what this thread is about, so please don't turn it into that. Most Armenians don't know Bush made promises and then broke them, people like my father who are so pro-bush, not knowing Bush isn't exactly pro-Armenian.

If you read carefully, you can see that this isn't about Israel bashing. From the tone of posts one can usually discern the answer to a specific question. Neither Kerry nor Bush are pro-Armenian, except in rhetoric, and besides I don't want them to hand out Armenians anything, that would be begging to political prostitutes for political leverage. All Armenians care about are their political camps, little realizing that it is the culture's soul or spirit that needs refinement, not anything political. Threads like this shouldn't even exist, but alas they do, and so long as they do, I will be there holding the full cup of thought to the thirsty lips of men.

[HyeJinx1984]

You know I actually like you two a lot when we're not talking about politics I hope you know that...

[Darorinag]

Politics breeds hatred. See, I told you. So we should just get rid of all systems.