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  • #31
    Can we please stop the "we shall fail forever because we are Armenian and only the Messiah can save us" attitude! I mean, sure, I'm one of the biggest critics of everything Armenian at times, but we should not think that we're this collectively retarded nation that can't possibly function.

    I love all Armenians! Tashnag, Hnchag, Chootag, Ramgavar, whatever! As long as we're all there for our common cause, my door is always open for you guys.

    jgm1975, the Catholicosate issue in Montreal is one for the older generation still stuck in the Cold War. I was appalled by how BOTH sides treated the issue, and found comfort in the fact that youth from both sides have understood the irrelevance of it all.

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    • #32
      There is no culture or nationality without internal conflict. We aren't different.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Stark Evade
        There is no culture or nationality without internal conflict. We aren't different.
        EXACTLY!!!

        Thank you, thank you, thank you!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Baron Dants
          Can we please stop the "we shall fail forever because we are Armenian and only the Messiah can save us" attitude! I mean, sure, I'm one of the biggest critics of everything Armenian at times, but we should not think that we're this collectively retarded nation that can't possibly function.

          I love all Armenians! Tashnag, Hnchag, Chootag, Ramgavar, whatever! As long as we're all there for our common cause, my door is always open for you guys.

          jgm1975, the Catholicosate issue in Montreal is one for the older generation still stuck in the Cold War. I was appalled by how BOTH sides treated the issue, and found comfort in the fact that youth from both sides have understood the irrelevance of it all.
          OK great. Now that that's resolved contribute to the "favorite songs/shows about Canada" thread.

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          • #35
            The question is not whether disagreements are normal among a nation. They certainly are. Disagreements provide an intellectual diversity that can be a source of great cultural wealth. The question is when do disagreements become epidemic, factional and divisive to the point where they become counter-productive? Also, when we say "all nations have disagreements anyway", there are two points to remember:

            1) Not all nations are alike. For example, the Chinese and Indians, with 1 billion people each, can afford to have a lot divisions. At 7.5 million people scattered around the world, with only a minority of that figure living in the Armenian homeland, we have to be careful about being too divided. There is a difference between splitting a watermelon and a cherry in 100 different pieces. The cherry will end up disintegrating, whereas you will still recognize the individual pieces of the watermelon.

            2) Is Armenia really like any other nation? To say "well all nations have disagreements" implies that we see ourselves as just another nation. I think Armenians should aspire to a higher ideal and should not just be like any other nation. We can do better than other nations.

            Finally, as B. Dants implied, I agree that we should not exaggerate and give the impression that we are a bunch of retards going nowhere and doomed to fail. Nevertheless let's not lose focus of this dilemma that we have to address as a nation. We need greater unity, which I am sure everyone agrees with. We should aim for the middle ground and reject the extremes, namely the belief that everything is wrong and we are doomed and the belief that there is nothing wrong.
            Last edited by jgm1975; 08-23-2004, 05:24 PM.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Baron Dants
              I love all Armenians! Tashnag, Hnchag, Chootag, Ramgavar, whatever!
              I have no idea what any of those are


              Originally posted by Baron Dants
              As long as we're all there for our common cause, my door is always open for you guys.
              Careful what you say or I might show up at your door with a sleeping bag
              "All I know is I'm not a Marxist." -Karl Marx

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              • #37
                Originally posted by HyeJinx1984
                I have no idea what any of those are




                Careful what you say or I might show up at your door with a sleeping bag
                Haha, you crack me up.
                I think that we should makeout in order to make up for all of this fighting that has been going on. (You may totally show up at my door, but leave the sleeping bag, you wont need it.)

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                • #38
                  Wait... *blinks* was that an invitation to xxxx?
                  "All I know is I'm not a Marxist." -Karl Marx

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by HyeJinx1984
                    Wait... *blinks* was that an invitation to xxxx?

                    No silly! We can have a slumber party and do each other's nails. Isn't that fun?

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                    • #40
                      Hmph... I'm so sick of doing someone's nails..
                      "All I know is I'm not a Marxist." -Karl Marx

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