To What extent?

[gevo]

I have realized that, ones looks (their physical attributes) have some direct or atleast indirect connection with the personality and outgoingness of a person. Wha do you wonderfully educated and all so intelligent people think about this? to what extent is this true, or if it is possible at all?

[jgm1975]

I think that it is true in an indirect way, because human nature has a lust for beauty, even if most people do not admit it. If someone is "ugly", then less people will want to interact with him, and he will be more rejected and feel like an outcast. This in turn will make him more likely to be anti-social. Similarly, if someone is very good-looking, a lot of people will immediately want to please that person. That person will go on in life expecting to always get favors from others. So "ugly" people are more likely to be anti-social because they might be rejected. But "ugly" people are more likely to be independent, self-reliant and more perseverant because unlike good-looking people, they are less likely to be helped by others, so they develop good survival skills. I guess there always is some poetic justice...

[angelik22]

i have to say i very much so agree with your point here jmg, but dont mix up antisocial and asocial. Anticosial means that the person goes against norms and societal rules, mainly criminals and so fotrh, asocial means that the eprson does not interact with others and has bad social skills...

to comment on the original thread... well yea that's something that depends on each situation, most people are like that, some others aren't .... it's life, poop happens and then some more poop happens, btu you gotta see that all this poop is useful- use it as manuer and grow upon all the poop that happens aye i dont think im making sense....
it sucks that its in human nature to go for looks, whether in friendship or love or whatever... because looks decieve most of the time, you gotta see through those things and see the person behind all the exterior...
those are a few "cents" see ifyou can make a dime outt it

[Anonymouse]

I think that it is true in an indirect way, because human nature has a lust for beauty, even if most people do not admit it. If someone is "ugly", then less people will want to interact with him, and he will be more rejected and feel like an outcast. This in turn will make him more likely to be anti-social. Similarly, if someone is very good-looking, a lot of people will immediately want to please that person. That person will go on in life expecting to always get favors from others. So "ugly" people are more likely to be anti-social because they might be rejected. But "ugly" people are more likely to be independent, self-reliant and more perseverant because unlike good-looking people, they are less likely to be helped by others, so they develop good survival skills. I guess there always is some poetic justice...

I would imagine it would be the other way around, since someone is ugly and less popular, they are more used to the fact that they have to work twice as hard, whereas good looking people and popular ones ( such as the hot girl at school who is used to getting what she wants as an example ) usually have things set up for them, while the former must toil and struggle, in which case, the uglier ones are not so much the anti-social ones, but in fact the more wise and virtuous ones. Cheers.

[gevo]

I would imagine it would be the other way around, since someone is ugly and less popular, they are more used to the fact that they have to work twice as hard, whereas good looking people and popular ones ( such as the hot girl at school who is used to getting what she wants as an example ) usually have things set up for them, while the former must toil and struggle, in which case, the uglier ones are not so much the anti-social ones, but in fact the more wise and virtuous ones. Cheers.

ehh,, i think thast what he was saying.. lol..

[Sally]

I would imagine it would be the other way around, since someone is ugly and less popular, they are more used to the fact that they have to work twice as hard, whereas good looking people and popular ones ( such as the hot girl at school who is used to getting what she wants as an example ) usually have things set up for them, while the former must toil and struggle, in which case, the uglier ones are not so much the anti-social ones, but in fact the more wise and virtuous ones. Cheers.

yes i absolutely agree with you. I think an ugly person works harder than a beautiful,good looking person to have a career. they concentrate their job,lesson... And i don't think uglies are anti-social. They can be popular in their careers,studies...

[gevo]

But i have known both people who are seemingly less attractive (comparing to the popular cultur "ideal" view of a pretty girl) and those who are very attractive, and have found in both cases (and not to few either) that either extreme does exist. As in, less attractive people tend to be just as outgoing and "xxxxy" in a sense, than any other.. and just the same with very attractive girls (since im a guy ill say girls) that are overly "shy" and not very sure of themselves...

and, maybe in these person's minds they think the exact same thing with perfectly opposite outcomes. as in, two very attractive people can find their "attractiveness" to be the root of one being shy and not outgoing, and the other quite the opposite.. and the same goes for the lesser attractive ones. so, i bring this point up to see what others think of this topic, as in to what extent physical beauty trains the mind of an individual to a certain "way" of viewing oneself.

[sSsflamesSs]

I really like this topic, and I'll say this much:

Very attractive people, the type that receive constant attention throughout childhood on up (regarding their superior physical characteristics), are usually ugly inside, more often than not.

Edit: ...and to add on to this...it made me think of birth order, as in, the youngest child is almost always the most spoiled, because of the constant attention, while the oldest child has to cope with this, and thus develops certain characteristics that we would deem as good.

[sleuth]

I would imagine it would be the other way around, since someone is ugly and less popular, they are more used to the fact that they have to work twice as hard, whereas good looking people and popular ones ( such as the hot girl at school who is used to getting what she wants as an example ) usually have things set up for them, while the former must toil and struggle, in which case, the uglier ones are not so much the anti-social ones, but in fact the more wise and virtuous ones. Cheers.

It's not possible to generalize and project this to everyone.And old adage *beauty's only skin deep* simply stupid.

I believe that body image is our mental representation,it reflects our inner self and its pretty much influenced by our feelings,emotions,behavior, and self esteem. Its our personal billboard.Gev noticed it right ,directly or indirectly it reflects us,our social status ,tells a lot more about our personality than we can imagine.
I bet most of the ugly girls are more quixotic than good looking once. I would say ugly girls put an extra effort to get an attention,which makes them even more pathetic.

[gevo]

I know many girls (ill use the oppsoite gender to reference to) that are rather very pretty, yet a simple conversation with them prooves they have been dropped one to many times on their heads as toddlers... In my experiance, i know very few girls who are "all that" (if i am allowed to use this term) and have an honest and "hamest" (this word fits well) personality. (side note, by "hamest" i do not mean "submissive" as many have come to think..) Basically, it can be deduced that in "most cases" or "for more persons than not" it is true that their exterior looks take the better part of their personality, and sadly that is where the "prettiness" of that person stops, at the skin.
Sleuth, let me also say, that your right, we cannot generalize this for "everyone" cause infact i do have friends who i think are "all that" and have a wonderful personality, and they dont carry that "high maintanance" mark as so many others do ..

As for guys, i think that the looks take similarly take part in their personalities, but i must say, not to that extent, and not that often (yes yes yes, all exceptions taken into consideration )