Are we Israeli Citizens?

[Stark Evade]

Exerpts from articles posted here: http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm


U.S. Aid to Israel: What U.S. Taxpayer Should Know
by Tom Malthaner

...Most Americans are not aware how much of their tax revenue our government sends to Israel. For the fiscal year ending in September 30, 1997, the U.S. has given Israel $6.72 billion: $6.194 billion falls under Israel's foreign aid allotment and $526 million comes from agencies such as the Department of Commerce, the U.S. Information Agency and the Pentagon. The $6.72 billion figure does not include loan guarantees and annual compound interest totalling $3.122 billion the U.S. pays on money borrowed to give to Israel. It does not include the cost to U.S. taxpayers of IRS tax exemptions that donors can claim when they donate money to Israeli charities. (Donors claim approximately $1 billion in Federal tax deductions annually. This ultimately costs other U.S. tax payers $280 million to $390 million.)...



The Cost of Israel to U.S. Taxpayers: True Lies About U.S. Aid to Israel
By Richard H. Curtiss

For many years the American media said that "Israel receives $1.8 billion in military aid" or that "Israel receives $1.2 billion in economic aid." Both statements were true, but since they were never combined to give us the complete total of annual U.S. aid to Israel, they also were lies—true lies.

Recently Americans have begun to read and hear that "Israel receives $3 billion in annual U.S. foreign aid." That's true. But it's still a lie. The problem is that in fiscal 1997 alone, Israel received from a variety of other U.S. federal budgets at least $525.8 million above and beyond its $3 billion from the foreign aid budget, and yet another $2 billion in federal loan guarantees. So the complete total of U.S. grants and loan guarantees to Israel for fiscal 1997 was $5,525,800,000...
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Foreign aid, has to be unconstitutional, no? I mean, isn't that the idea of taxes to the government (and I'm not interested in a discussion about the constitutionality of income taxes): "I am paying you to be my government." What the hell is this? And bare in mind, if you consider the war on Iraq to be aid to Israel, you can tack on another $166 billion for the last 3 years in addition to a 1000 broken and confused families. I'm disgusted.

[gevo]

Foregin relations should about sum this up ... America needs more and more of it, especially in the mideast and surrounding areas.

the taxes we pay are gonna be waisted anyways.. so whatever.

[Stark Evade]

the taxes we pay are gonna be waisted anyways.. so whatever.

That's pretty funny there: waisted. I don't think our taxes are being shouldered properly. That's an awful attitude to have: the big "G" is going to do whatever they want anyway so who cares.

[Anonymouse]

Foreign aid is unconstitutional, and yes so is the income tax, the IRS, the Federal Reserve, etc. There is no end to the list of things that are unconstitutional, if we want to hold up the Constitution's integrity.

Israel is the biggest blood sucker on earth. It is the reason for 9-11, and it is the reason for the war in Iraq, the "War on terror" and the other situations that are brewing in the Middle East, including that recent spying investigation. It is all for the interests of a few Zionist supremacist elite.

[gevo]

Foreign aid is unconstitutional, and yes so is the income tax, the IRS, the Federal Reserve, etc. There is no end to the list of things that are unconstitutional, if we want to hold up the Constitution's integrity.

Israel is the biggest blood sucker on earth. It is the reason for 9-11, and it is the reason for the war in Iraq, the "War on terror" and the other situations that are brewing in the Middle East, including that recent spying investigation. It is all for the interests of a few Zionist supremacist elite.

i think its about 5000+ years ago when a man named Daniel has prophecised all this to hold true. And, we are seeing it in the current day. Things will get worse, before eternity .. and beware, 1/3 of the jewish population will be murdered again, and the world will be delicately devided into two ideologies, which eventually the one that is prophecised will win, but that wont last for too long.

Why do you think Israel is such an issue? its not the soil, you cant grow crap! its all revolved around a single idea, which im sure you all are somewhat familiar with..

and, for the taxes bit.. i dont care much where my taxes go, as long as they dont ask for more.

[Anonymouse]

i think its about 5000+ years ago when a man named Daniel has prophecised all this to hold true. And, we are seeing it in the current day. Things will get worse, before eternity .. and beware, 1/3 of the jewish population will be murdered again, and the world will be delicately devided into two ideologies, which eventually the one that is prophecised will win, but that wont last for too long.

Why do you think Israel is such an issue? its not the soil, you cant grow crap! its all revolved around a single idea, which im sure you all are somewhat familiar with..

and, for the taxes bit.. i dont care much where my taxes go, as long as they dont ask for more.

You know, as much as I read the Bible and I like it, I believe the prophecies are based on how one interprets them. For example the Torah Jews, and according to the Torah, believe that the current State of Israel is not according to the Torah, and would only come to exist upon the arrival of the Messiah, so I don't know how you've translated this to mean that Israel is some sanctity.

Secondly, most Jews are not true "Jews" in the Hebraic/Semetic sense, and are descendents of European/Ashkenazi tribes from the Khazars, who converted to Judaism en masse around the 6-8th centuries, and that explains the "Jewish presence" in Europe. You should read Arthur Koestler's "The Thirteenth Tribe".

[XxgoeyxX]

You know, as much as I read the Bible and I like it, I believe the prophecies are based on how one interprets them. For example the Torah Jews, and according to the Torah, believe that the current State of Israel is not according to the Torah, and would only come to exist upon the arrival of the Messiah, so I don't know how you've translated this to mean that Israel is some sanctity.

Secondly, most Jews are not true "Jews" in the Hebraic/Semetic sense, and are descendents of European/Ashkenazi tribes from the Khazars, who converted to Judaism en masse around the 6-8th centuries, and that explains the "Jewish presence" in Europe. You should read Arthur Koestler's "The Thirteenth Tribe".

I agree with you on the frist statment. Because in reality most Jews are not true "Jews" as you stated. After the fall of Judah, the Jewish nation began to scatter throughout the Middle East. That was in fact, due to the Babylonian captivity. So, Alexander the Great conquest and "hellenize" all lands under Greek control made a lot of regions, including the Diaspora Jews to adopted the "koine." So in fact the Jew did forget their native tough. They lost their use of both tradition Hebrew and Aramaic. Until they realized in order to stay "Jewish" and not forgot any of the principle the Tanak or the Torah had to be translated into Greek. In the 3rd centruy the Torah was translated into Greek and in the 2nd century the Tanak was translated.

[Anonymouse]

I agree with you on the frist statment. Because in reality most Jews are not true "Jews" as you stated. After the fall of Judah, the Jewish nation began to scatter throughout the Middle East. That was in fact, due to the Babylonian captivity. So, Alexander the Great conquest and "hellenize" all lands under Greek control made a lot of regions, including the Diaspora Jews to adopted the "koine." So in fact the Jew did forget their native tough. They lost their use of both tradition Hebrew and Aramaic. Until they realized in order to stay "Jewish" and not forgot any of the principle the Tanak or the Torah had to be translated into Greek. In the 3rd centruy the Torah was translated into Greek and in the 2nd century the Tanak was translated.

I understand what you say here, but it has nothing to do with the Khazars or their conversion to Judaism. These people were Asiatics, who spoke a Turko Finnish language, and had a huge empire, that had nothing to do with the Hebrews or Semites, but who, with the help of Jews, were converted into Judaism. They were such a huge country, yet we never learn about them in history. Why is this fact ommitted from the books? 80% of world Jewry consists of the Ashkenazi Jews, or who are European Jews, descendents of these peoples. I would say, that is one of the great frauds perpetrated on the goyim, but I'm alone on this opinion.

[Anonymouse]

Also see, "Facts are Facts" by Benjamin Freedma, as a side to Koestler's "The Thirteenth Tribe".

[XxgoeyxX]

Well, I haven't studied about that. So I guess now I have to read his book inorder to get the other facts.