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Voting: Moral or Immoral?

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  • Voting: Moral or Immoral?

    Voting is evil, and immoral. That is my position. I do not vote because I do not believe in the concept of voting someone to make choices for me or for other people (After all, who am I to decide? Those people that all too often claim "Who am I to decide what other people shoul do are most often the ones putting their energies into the system of telling other people what to do. ) especially when that "someone" is a politician, and far more ignoble than I. Basically, this delves into the whole idea of what you believe in. Do you believe in peace? Or do you believe in aggression?

    Simply put, voting is nothing more than a legal yet immoral act of aggression. When one, such as myself, chooses not to vote, it is a rejection of the legal yet immoral act of aggression, even when I could have received government handouts if I had voted. Let it be known that, when you vote for anyone, even for a libertarian ( which I am ) or a green party member, you are voting to, in effect, give that person the coerceive power of government, and you are "okaying", in effect, giving a signal, that it is okay for that person to use that power ( is it any wonder why tyrants have only to point but to their immense support to show that it was the 'will of the people'? ). In essence, you just voted for that person to do whatever he wants with that power, and to use it on whomever he wants. And let's not forget that some of the worst tyrannies have come about by the nonsense of democracy whether it was Nazism or Bolshevism ). This is made worse by the fact that there is no legal requirement that is binding that politicians should attempt to do in office what they claim while running for office, and their campaign speeches larded with saintly oils of "the people".

    Supposedly this country was created so ( by a Constitution ) which guaranteed checks and balances that would not allow too much power to be exercised by any one portion of the government, but even this is a farce when one studies U.S. history and the nature of politics and the Constitution, for what one finds is the precise negation of this idea. You see, one of the very founders of this nation, Thomas Jefferson, violated this principle when he illegally purchased Louisiana, while getting the country embroiled in trouble with Europe, by ignoring his own advice on foreign wars and trade.

    And hypothetically speaking, even if all was dandy, the sun was shining, and the blue birds were singing, and the Constitution was upheld as a sacred and binding document, the very fact that such a coercive power exists is itself immoral, and it doesn't change anything. The fact that it is "legal" doesn't make it any more moral. Slavery used to be legal, yet it is immoral. The same applies to the coercive power of government.

    That I do not vote, I morally choose not to engage in the circus called election, at the price of enslaving everyone else. By not voting, I am not putting my energies into the coercive government, nor am I encouraging the politicians. And the fact that totalitarian governments, Communist nations, and banana republics are worse than our system, doesn't make our system any more moral.

    You might be wondering why I automatically claimed that voting is evil, while not voting is good. This is because we’ve been told the same lie so many times since birth, from every orifice of communication, by government schools, the media, the politicians, and stupid musicians called "artists" to "get out and vote", etc., that we believe it. But by and large when we vote, we are declaring that we support the idea of some people ruling over others via coercive means.

    It used to be that, there was nothing hidden in matters of politics. Whether in Rome or Medeival Europe, Emperors and Kings collided in arms to show who is mightier in order to rule. People nowadays are all too often distrustful of honest tyrants and monarchies, yet all too gullible to accept the naivity of "democracy". They are all too distrustful of those who seek power by the means of power, yet all too trusting of those that pretend they are honest, and that they give them the lie that "the people are the government". If power was not such a valuable commodity, why would it be advertised freely and offered to the people like an ancient elixir? On the contrary, the nature of politics is that it has to be one step ahead of the "people", the "mass", because as Hitler said "the masses do not think", they only follow. No matter who you vote for the government always gets elected. If I wanted to vote the government out, I do not have that choice. As Biafra I believe of the Dead Kennedy's used to say, "If voting changed anything, it would be illegal".
    Achkerov kute.

  • #2
    Wow. I like this argument. I mean, it's not everyday you hear it. You said you can't vote the government out. So what should people do? I always feel very strongly about arguments that propose not necessarily a solution, but something to work with. I mean, I kind of feel like you're suggesting a revolution yet it's without a known or defined aim...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by thedebutante
      Wow. I like this argument. I mean, it's not everyday you hear it. You said you can't vote the government out. So what should people do? I always feel very strongly about arguments that propose not necessarily a solution, but something to work with. I mean, I kind of feel like you're suggesting a revolution yet it's without a known or defined aim...
      Yes, I am suggesting a revolution. The means is to abstain from politics, and political systems by not voting. The end in sight is getting rid of the State.
      Achkerov kute.

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      • #4
        Well, did you ever read Lord of the Flies?

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        • #5
          Yes, I have, and like Lord of the Flies, the State preys on our fears.
          Achkerov kute.

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          • #6
            Yes, but I was concentrating more on how a state of anarchy does not last. Anyway, I like your argument.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by thedebutante
              Yes, but I was concentrating more on how a state of anarchy does not last. Anyway, I like your argument.
              Nothing lasts dear. Second law of thermodynamics. It's either despotism or anarchy, and the pendulum swings different ways in different times.
              Achkerov kute.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Anonymouse
                Nothing lasts dear. Second law of thermodynamics. It's either despotism or anarchy, and the pendulum swings different ways in different times.
                Ahhh, yes! But which one prevails throughout history? It's not the steady swinging of a pendulum. Do think of another metaphor.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by thedebutante
                  Ahhh, yes! But which one prevails throughout history? It's not the steady swinging of a pendulum. Do think of another metaphor.
                  This assumes many things, but on its face value, it assumes that history is a single process, and a rule. On the contrary, the pendulum analogy holds for all throughout history it is a case of despotism or anarchy, all theoretical governments aside - consolidation, and revolution. History is not a single point in time, it is a process, and just because somethin has been so in the past, does not mean it should be, or will be so, in the future. In other words, the past is not necessarily the determining factor of what the future will be.
                  Achkerov kute.

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                  • #10
                    But anyway folks, I don't want to veer off into anarchy or despotism, or anything. All I wanted were arguments in favor and against voting and your reasons for it. That is all.
                    Achkerov kute.

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