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    I had an interesting talk with one of my friends today. I offer this story up without any moral judging one way or another... just sharing it.

    I hang out with a group of friends between classes at Valley college, most of which are either filapino or hispanic, with one Itlaian guy. Me and the Italian guy have been talking a little more recently.

    Somehow today the topic of Ex-Girlfriends came up and we started talking. I brought up the fact that I was sorta forced into hanging out with myu Ex-Girlfriend last night because even though we broke up, we have the same group of friends. Considering how much I don't like my ex-girlfriend, I'll be honest and admit I reffered to her as "an annoying xxxxx" from time to time in the conversation. As a side note, no, my ex is not Armenian.

    Since we were on the subject, my friend (more like aquiantence) decided to share his own ex-girlfriend story. Apparently, his Ex-girlfriend was Armenian. As expected, the red flags went up in my mind. However, wasn't I just talking about a girl who was of a different race as well? As we kept talking, we reffered to her as a "xxxxx" a couple of times. More red flags... I don't even know this girl, but knowing she's an Armenian girl and hearing an odar-male calling her a piss got me revved up. But.... didn't I just call my ex-girlfriend a xxxxx too?

    Then the real bomb hit... he'd gotten her pregnant. I really had to force myself from flipping out. Not to sound racist, but one of the things that always comforted me and made us different from other minorities such as Hispanics or Blacks is that our girls for the most part don't get pregnant out of wedlock. However, I offered up my own story... about how I'd gotten MY ex-girlfriend pregnant as well. Thankfully (as sad as it may sound) in both cases, his and mine, the girlfriend's had gotten an abortion. I guess this sort of made us brothers in a weird way.. we had something in common, a fetusin the grave. Still... I wanted to tear his head off. this wop got one of our precious Hye-Ahchiks pregnant? But........ didn't I do the same thing?

    Now I know at this point (if you've bothered reading this far) are saying "why didn't you just put this in the interacial relationships thread"... I guess that's part of it. But what I'm really focusing on here is how we're similar.. but whereas up until now I've never really thought about it in SUCH negative terms, hearing it from someone else and seeing how it infuriated me sure opened my eyes.

    This Italian guy had gotten an Armenian girl pregnant. For this I should hate him... but aren't I guilty of the same crime? This IS about interacial relationships... but what it's really about is looking in a mirror. From the way he desribed it, they were really in love... just as I was really in love with my odar.

    Again, I don't really know where I'm going with this story, and I honestly don't have any particular point I wanna make, just sharing something that really, really made me think.
    "All I know is I'm not a Marxist." -Karl Marx
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      I don't think that's a bunny. It looks like a mouse or something. Oh well, still so so cute.

      Hyejinx, I think you're being hypocritical and I don't blame you. I'm too tired to continue typing though. *yawn*
      I see...

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      • #4
        you're not babbling and it makes a lot of sense what you say; by some divine force you were put in the position of a judge and a defendent at the same time and how great it is to read that you chose to look at him as a brother and not some 'evil guy who got an armenian girl pregnant'; 'let him without a sin cast the first stone'~~ thanks for sharing that we all make choices in life and who's to say that they are more righteous than their neighbor and their friend?~~ the whole purpose of life IS to live moments like that; where we realize that we are all equal! even those who have committed horrible crimes and are paying for it with a life sentence or even death! we are all one under God, however, our differences lie in the choices we make, and how conscious we are of the consequences of our actions, and how much conscience we have (how connected we are with the universe and how much reverence we have for life)....while it may be easy to judge a bum on the street, think!! if you and i were born in a different time, in a different place, in a different family, with different circumstances, we too might be sitting on the side of that curb trying to feed ourselves for the day.

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        • #5
          Good post...

          ...

          Hmph... why are you making me like you again?
          "All I know is I'm not a Marxist." -Karl Marx

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          • #6
            cuz you never stopped liking snow white

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            • #7
              You just hurt my feelings is all... *sniff*
              "All I know is I'm not a Marxist." -Karl Marx

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              • #8
                Honestly Hyejinx.... we're all human beings.

                I have gotten past the fact of looking at people and categorizing them by culture all the time. I look at them on a humanistic level. Before, I would've gotten pissed off as well just like you... but you know what? We as an Armenian race are not so innocent either.

                Yea, the girl was Armenian and it's frustrating to hear about that story... but that doesn't matter. Everyone is a human being in this life who's capable of making choices for their own and living with the consequences or the rewards of the choices. Apples and Oranges might not mix, but in the end we're all a fruit right?

                So... I guess.... essentially, you and him are not guilty at all for calling them b*tches because that's the way you expressed your feelings towards your ex's.... not the race as a whole.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by HyeJinx1984
                  I had an interesting talk with one of my friends today. I offer this story up without any moral judging one way or another... just sharing it.

                  I hang out with a group of friends between classes at Valley college, most of which are either filapino or hispanic, with one Itlaian guy. Me and the Italian guy have been talking a little more recently.

                  Somehow today the topic of Ex-Girlfriends came up and we started talking. I brought up the fact that I was sorta forced into hanging out with myu Ex-Girlfriend last night because even though we broke up, we have the same group of friends. Considering how much I don't like my ex-girlfriend, I'll be honest and admit I reffered to her as "an annoying xxxxx" from time to time in the conversation. As a side note, no, my ex is not Armenian.

                  Since we were on the subject, my friend (more like aquiantence) decided to share his own ex-girlfriend story. Apparently, his Ex-girlfriend was Armenian. As expected, the red flags went up in my mind. However, wasn't I just talking about a girl who was of a different race as well? As we kept talking, we reffered to her as a "xxxxx" a couple of times. More red flags... I don't even know this girl, but knowing she's an Armenian girl and hearing an odar-male calling her a piss got me revved up. But.... didn't I just call my ex-girlfriend a xxxxx too?

                  Then the real bomb hit... he'd gotten her pregnant. I really had to force myself from flipping out. Not to sound racist, but one of the things that always comforted me and made us different from other minorities such as Hispanics or Blacks is that our girls for the most part don't get pregnant out of wedlock. However, I offered up my own story... about how I'd gotten MY ex-girlfriend pregnant as well. Thankfully (as sad as it may sound) in both cases, his and mine, the girlfriend's had gotten an abortion. I guess this sort of made us brothers in a weird way.. we had something in common, a fetusin the grave. Still... I wanted to tear his head off. this wop got one of our precious Hye-Ahchiks pregnant? But........ didn't I do the same thing?

                  Now I know at this point (if you've bothered reading this far) are saying "why didn't you just put this in the interacial relationships thread"... I guess that's part of it. But what I'm really focusing on here is how we're similar.. but whereas up until now I've never really thought about it in SUCH negative terms, hearing it from someone else and seeing how it infuriated me sure opened my eyes.

                  This Italian guy had gotten an Armenian girl pregnant. For this I should hate him... but aren't I guilty of the same crime? This IS about interacial relationships... but what it's really about is looking in a mirror. From the way he desribed it, they were really in love... just as I was really in love with my odar.

                  Again, I don't really know where I'm going with this story, and I honestly don't have any particular point I wanna make, just sharing something that really, really made me think.
                  I think you have a hang up with this false image that Armenian girls cant be ho bags. Let it go, life will be much more simple, then you can come down from Babylon and join us for some Mr. Pibb and Hot Pockets!
                  Achkerov kute.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Anonymouse
                    I think you have a hang up with this false image that Armenian girls cant be ho bags. Let it go, life will be much more simple, then you can come down from Babylon and join us for some Mr. Pibb and Hot Pockets!
                    Exactly, well put.

                    By the way.... Mr. Pibb rules.

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