Dragnet

[HyeJinx1984]

About a year or so ago the pilot for a new incarnation of the cop show "Dragnet" aired on fox. I honestly don't watch that much television, but from what I can gather the show has been cancelled since I NEVER see any commercials or anything for it. In fact I wonder if it got past the first episode.

Now why the hell am I bringing up Dragnet? Well, if anyone DID catch the first episode you'd know that it revolved around Armenians. As described by one of the characters "They came off the boat killing," and was all about Armenian gangs springing up all over L.A., with the main bad guy in this episode named "Karp" (Short for Karapet I'd imagine). Anyway, the show wasn't that great, or even that accurate (I don't see too many Armenians with blue hair and pierced up the wazoo...) but I was wondering if maybe the show got cancelled because negative reaction by the Armenian community.

EDIT: There WAS a backlash aparently, here's the link: http://adl.hayway.org/default_zone/g.../page3258.html

[jilbagh]

have you seen season 1 of "The Shield"...that was based on Armenians in hollywood...you can buy the dvd acutally

[HyeJinx1984]

No, but tell me more.

[Anonymouse]

I do not care if they write such stuff about Armenians. I am for all free speech, not just some. Only PC people get offended by words.

[HyeJinx1984]

It's not just words, it's perception. A lot of people don't know ANYTHING about Armenians, and even preople who KNOW Armenians know NOTHING about Armenians. Since most of the world, and definately America, is still impressionable, it's important that they see a good and honorable view of Armenians.

I for one don't like it when minorities b!tch and complain about shows that put them down, but there's a difference. An episode of "Friends" isn't going to make me think about Mexicans a particular way... there are MANY different portrayls. Same for blacks, asians, etc... it's not like an episode of a show is going to form ideas for them. But if someone has never heard of an Armenian before and all of a sudden they see these crazy savages shooting people's knee caps out (which I believe was our favorite form of shooting people in that episode), they're gonna have some pretty strong opinions formed very quickly.

[thedebutante]

About a year or so ago the pilot for a new incarnation of the cop show "Dragnet" aired on fox. I honestly don't watch that much television, but from what I can gather the show has been cancelled since I NEVER see any commercials or anything for it. In fact I wonder if it got past the first episode.

Now why the hell am I bringing up Dragnet? Well, if anyone DID catch the first episode you'd know that it revolved around Armenians. As described by one of the characters "They came off the boat killing," and was all about Armenian gangs springing up all over L.A., with the main bad guy in this episode named "Karp" (Short for Karapet I'd imagine). Anyway, the show wasn't that great, or even that accurate (I don't see too many Armenians with blue hair and pierced up the wazoo...) but I was wondering if maybe the show got cancelled because negative reaction by the Armenian community.

EDIT: There WAS a backlash aparently, here's the link: http://adl.hayway.org/default_zone/g.../page3258.html

Ooo, I remember that episode. The dude's last name was Karpoyan and he owned a strip joint. I also remember seeing this before

http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/media-badarmens.htm

(I absolutely hate this website because it breaths toxins...)

[HyeJinx1984]

Ah, but you're forgetting one very important thing... Harut's website looks much, much better

[HyeJinx1984]

When I typed "Dragnet" & Armenians in google it brought up a bunch of links about how controvertial it was and how Armenians were pissed. When I typed in "The Shield" & Armenians in google, there weren't such links, just reviews of episodes, even one review on armeniandiaspora.com. Like I said I don't watch the shield, but from what I can gather it doesn't portray us as monsters. Can someone who DOES watch the shield please clarify?

[Anonymouse]

It's not just words, it's perception. A lot of people don't know ANYTHING about Armenians, and even preople who KNOW Armenians know NOTHING about Armenians. Since most of the world, and definately America, is still impressionable, it's important that they see a good and honorable view of Armenians.

I do not disagree, but if you want to portray Armenians as good, then you should do so, but not demand others curb their freedom of speech. To counteract against ignorance, we need to educate, indeed.

I for one don't like it when minorities b!tch and complain about shows that put them down, but there's a difference. An episode of "Friends" isn't going to make me think about Mexicans a particular way... there are MANY different portrayls. Same for blacks, asians, etc... it's not like an episode of a show is going to form ideas for them. But if someone has never heard of an Armenian before and all of a sudden they see these crazy savages shooting people's knee caps out (which I believe was our favorite form of shooting people in that episode), they're gonna have some pretty strong opinions formed very quickly.

SO WHAT? Who gives a shyt? I do not. Do you think the masses are this stupid? And if they are, do you care? If someone is stupid enough to believe Hollywood guff about Armenians, that's their problem. If they come up to me with those views, I will correct them and show them the real side of Armenians. It's not up to me to curtail the speech of others [ nor force them to agree to my views ]. But like I said, only sticks and stones will hurt my bones but words [ and perceptions ] will never hurt me.

[jilbagh]

Go rent or buy Season One of The Shield...there's a scene where the Armenian Drug Trafficar tells the female detective "Hamov Votker"... and an old armo guy is reading Asbarez...I kinda think about how they won emmys...

but ya rent/buy it...you'll like it

episode 5 is the armo one