Interesting Art / Illusions

[bell-the-cat]

Is this a portrait of Thoth from h-y-e-forum

[bell-the-cat]

Another skull. Drive carefully!!

[bell-the-cat]

But most of them were just an excuse for a lot of female nudity!

[sleuth]

This sort of thing is called a metamorphic painting. And for that one, Dali, being not a particularly original artist (IMHO), just nicked the idea from stuff that was around 50 years earlier. There are quite a few of his works that reuses the same sort of skull imagery - there is one which is a photograph composed of a pile of about a dozen naked women arranged to form the shape of a skull (he had fun doing that photo-shoot I bet!).

I'll post some metamorphic images from the 19th century. There was quite a fad for them then. Since this is an Armenian forum I'll start with two with a sort of Armenian connection - they are of that nasty old Ottoman sultan Abdul Hamid.

Bell the _cat: Dali was one of *the masters of deception* with his own style full of visual surprises and hidden surreal images but he wasn’t an original artist.
Actually, metamorphic art has been around over 400 years. (From 1500) Pay attention: Dali was born in 1904,and he adopted most of his ideas from stuff that was around 350 years earlier.
And one of unusual and distinctive painter was Giuseppe Arcimbolodo.(1527)

Here is a few of his paintings, composite portraits of heads made up of fruits and flowers.








I have to admit that metamorphic art is very creative and artistic but am not big fan of it.

3D sculpturs utterly captivating though.

[angelik22]

Is this a portrait of Thoth from h-y-e-forum

haha heyyyyyyyyy steveeeeeeee.... that was a good one... remember me? its angel4hope...lol damn is thoth still there? lol man those were some funny days there...that old scarry man...he was something else... lol hahaha wow! ]]

btw i miss ure art stuff...

those ones u posted were awesome!

[bell-the-cat]

Bell the _cat: Dali was one of *the masters of deception* with his own style full of visual surprises and hidden surreal images but he wasn’t an original artist.
Actually, metamorphic art has been around over 400 years. (From 1500) Pay attention: Dali was born in 1904,and he adopted most of his ideas from stuff that was around 350 years earlier.
And one of unusual and distinctive painter was Giuseppe Arcimbolodo.(1527)

Thanks sleuth - I was aware of those paintings with faces made out of arrangements of fruit and meat pictures, but I had forgotten all about them when I wrote what I did. But do they have any particular hidden message or meaning to them?

There are also metamorphic paintings made up of strips of card that are glued onto a background painting. But each side of the card also contains a strip of another painting. So if you look straight-on at the whole painting you see one picture, but if you move to the right or the left then the individual strips will visually come together and you see another painting that will comment on the subject matter of the first painting.

Was strikes me most about those photograph-like metamorphic images for the 19th century is firstly how realistic they are, and secondly, that they do convey a message - though maybe a bit of a heavy-handed mesasge at times, like the skull of death appearing in a scene of youth or love. I've seen ones of Napoleon composed of the dead that resulted from his wars, or a group of gossiping women that are arranged so as to form a devil-like face, and so on. They are an early form of photomontage I think, but for some reason seem to be completely neglected in books about art or photography.

As an art form it doesn't seem to be used much these days , though the film poster for Donnie-Darko used a metamorphic image.

Steve

[bell-the-cat]

haha heyyyyyyyyy steveeeeeeee.... that was a good one... remember me? its angel4hope...lol damn is thoth still there? lol man those were some funny days there...that old scarry man...he was something else... lol hahaha wow! ]]

btw i miss ure art stuff...

those ones u posted were awesome!

Hiya angel, yep sure I remember you

Thoth seems to have gone elsewhere. But since I've gone too (though not willingly ) it doesn't much matter. He is even scarier in real life though. (seriously!)

[bell-the-cat]

Here is the original Donnie Darko movie poster using a metamorphic picture of Frank the scarey rabbit.
Unfortunately, when the film was re-released after it had gained a cult following the poster got changed to a more commercially sellable image. Grrrr

[sleuth]

[QUOTE=bell-the-cat]Thanks sleuth - I was aware of those paintings with faces made out of arrangements of fruit and meat pictures, but I had forgotten all about them when I wrote what I did. But do they have any particular hidden message or meaning to them?

Steve: I dont' think this portraits convay any hidden messages.Arcimbolodo wasn't content simply limitation of nature in his art.His fantasy took over his emotions and he produced some sort of anti-natuaralist abstraction.Look at the pictures. They are lack of emotions,feelings or any kind of messages.It's close to abstraction which means it's open for any kind of interpretation.For me they are way to dry.

[sleuth]

Here is one of Shigeo Fukuda's 3d scuplturs.I saw few of his works in Kuala_Lumpur National Art gallery. (in my way to Australia).


This statue looks different when see from different angles:It can be a piano player or a violin player.

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