Animal cruelty-- for fur (Warning:Graphic Video)

[ckBejug]

*hugs her Ugglies* What about for warmth and comfort?

Don't even start with me Sig. Warmth in LA? Go to the beach and stick your feet in the sand. Sheesh.


p.s. you could have bought the non-sheepskin cheaper knockoffs! You label wh0re you!

[spiral]

I don't know spiral, what do you think? You rather be skinned alive or be put to sleep first?

I think that I was trying to figure out what you guys have a problem with, the fact that the method used to skin them while alive is too painful, or skinning animals altogether is 'immoral'. Obviously it would be more 'humane' to put them to sleep first, but would this make it o.k?

As for the video/sound clip or whatever it is, I didn't click.

And as for fur, I wouldn't wear fur, because I dislike animals. I have petted an animal...maybe once in my life.

[Anonymouse]

Not for fur! The problem is that wearing animal skin is a fashion statement. Oh, I'm rich and I can afford to wear something that has no purpose but to show how much money I have. The problem is that it is not necessary to kill these animals for food. Do you eat fox or mink or chinchilla? Even if they completely eliminated the pain factor, I don't see a reason an animal has to be killed in order for someone to wear a stupid fashion statement on their shoulders. You heard that clip, did you know that more than a hundred animals have to be killed just for one coat?? I know that certain places use the cows for more than just meat, they also use the cow, after the meat part it taken care of, to make leather and suede, and it's hooves to make gelatin. Ok, optimizing the use of a cow for all those purposes, that's ok. Not that I'd go out of my way to wear leather or suede, it's ok because the meat is taken for food, etc. But why use traps and all other sorts of really inhumane methods to trap wild fox and other animals for their fur?

Why are you jealous of rich people if they wear animal skin or not? If they can afford it, it is theirs. Quit with the lefty politics of envy.

[ckBejug]

Why are you jealous of rich people if they wear animal skin or not? If they can afford it, it is theirs. Quit with the lefty politics of envy.

Oh mouse, if it is rich people envy you see then clearly you read and read and read and speak as though you are smart but really completely miss the point every time and aren't really so smart after all.

[Anonymouse]

Oh mouse, if it is rich people envy you see then clearly you read and read and read and speak as though you are smart but really completely miss the point every time and aren't really so smart after all.

Oh no, you don't think I'm smart. Woe is me. It seems the only point here is that rich people are able to afford fur and you don't like that.

[CatWoman]

Oh no, you don't think I'm smart. Woe is me. It seems the only point here is that rich people are able to afford fur and you don't like that.

You completely missed her point but that's okay, you're determined to not get it.

[Anonymouse]

You completely missed her point but that's okay, you're determined to not get it.

I got her point fine, I don't need you to act as a self-styled interpreter telling me what I did or did not get. The point is, animals serve humans, both as needs and luxuries, get used to it.

[CatWoman]

I got her point fine, I don't need you to act as a self-styled interpreter telling me what I did or did not get. The point is, animals serve humans, both as needs and luxuries, get used to it.

Well if you got her point, then why were you acting as if she's jealous of the rich or something?
I don't think I can ever get used to having animals skinned alive.
We might NEED meat to survive, but I don't think we NEED to wear animal skin... I don't consider animal skin a luxury either.

[Anonymouse]

Well if you got her point, then why were you acting as if she's jealous of the rich or something?
I don't think I can ever get used to having animals skinned alive.
We might NEED meat to survive, but I don't think we NEED to wear animal skin... I don't consider animal skin a luxury either.

Tough luck, there is a market for it, which means there is a demand, which in turn means that the market decides it is a luxury. You don't have to like it, but that is the way it goes.

[ckBejug]

Oh no, you don't think I'm smart. Woe is me. It seems the only point here is that rich people are able to afford fur and you don't like that.

Don't project your petty little jelousies on me mouse. I did, after all, go to the University of Spolied Children. To be jealous there needs to be something someone else has that is unattainable to you that you desire. I choose not be in the market for animal fur. Woe is you.

Tough luck, there is a market for it, which means there is a demand, which in turn means that the market decides it is a luxury. You don't have to like it, but that is the way it goes.

Tough luck. I suppose you can say that for people who are murdered because people want to take their money or steal something they own, right? Tough luck, they had something someone else wanted. The animals have fur, people want that fur, tough luck for the animals. *shrug* That kind of attitude is just so frustrating I don't even know how to respond to it!

As for market demand, just because there is a demand for it doesn't mean I can't look down on the vile disgusting excuses for human beings who wear furs. I can, and I do. I also look down on people who act as though common human decency and protection of things that cannot speak for themselves are secondary to what the market demands. But people want fur! Let's give it to them then! It's true, money rules the world, it also rules people and I pity people who are so ruled by money, the 'market', the need to make more money, keep more money, and follow everyone else in the pursuit of money and in doing so miss out on what it actually means to be living.

Enough lectures though, it's not as though I am trying to change anyone's mind. I already have my own convictions and 'popular' or not they're mine to stand by, not something I am following because everyone else is.