Please tell me why I have to like xxxs.

[Cinderella]

The following are a few summarized references to Christians and the Christian faith.

The passages quoted below indicate what kind of people the Talmud pictures the Christians to be, and what the Talmud says about the religious worship of Christians:


Orach Chaiim (20, 2). -- Christians disguise themselves to kill Jews.
Abhodah Zarah (15b) -- Suggest Christians have sex relations with animals.
Abhodah Zarah (22a) -- Suspect Christians of intercourse with animals.
Abhodah Zarah (22b) -- Christians unclean because they not at Mount Sinai.
Iore Dea (198, 48). -- Clean female Jews contaminated meeting Christians.
Kerithuth (6b p. 78) -- Jews called men, Christians not called men.
Makkoth (7b) -- Innocent of murder if intent was to kill Christian.
Orach Chaiim(225, 10) -- Christians and animals grouped for comparisons.
Midrasch Talpioth 225 -- Christians created to minister to Jews always.
Orach Chaiim 57, 6a -- Christians to be pitied more than sick pigs.
Zohar II (64b) -- Christian idolators likened to cows and asses.
Kethuboth (110b). -- Psalmist compares Christians to unclean beasts.
Sanhedrin (74b). Tos. -- Sexual intercourse of Christian like that of beast.
Kethuboth (3b) -- The seed of Christian is valued as seed of beast.
Kidduschim (68a) -- Christians like the people of an ass.
Zohar (II, 64b) -- Christian birth rate must be diminished materially.
Zohar (I, 28b) -- Christian idolators children of Eve's serpent.
Zohar (I, 131a) -- Idolatrous people (Christians) befoul the world.
Zohar (I, 46b, 47a) -- Souls of gentiles have unclean divine origins.
Rosch Haschanach(17a) -- Non-Jews souls go down to hell.
Iore Dea (337, 1). -- Replace dead Christians like lost cow or ass.
Iebhammoth (61a) -- Jews called men, but not Christians called men.
Iore Dea (142, 10) -- Must keep far away physically from churches.
Chullin (91b) -- Jews possess dignity even an angel cannot share.
Sanhedrin, 58b -- To strike Israelite like slapping face of God.
Chagigah, 15b -- A Jew considered good in spite of sins he commits.
Choschen Ham. (26,1) -- Jew must not sue before a Christian judge or laws.
Choschen Ham (34,19) -- Christian or servant cannot become witnesses.
Abhodah Zarah (35b) -- Do not drink milk from a cow milked by Christian.
Abhodah Zarah (72b) -- Wine touched by Christians must be thrown away.
Iore Dea (120, 1) -- Bought-dishes from Christians must be thrown away.
Abhodah Zarah (2aT) -- Trade with Christians because they have money to pay.
Iore Dea (153, 1 H) -- Christian nurse will lead children to heresy.
Iore Dea (156,1) -- Avoid Christian barbers unless escorted by Jews.
Abhodah Zarah (26a). -- Avoid Christian midwives as dangerous when alone.
Zohar (1,25b) -- Those who do good to Christians never rise when dead.
Iore Dea (148, 12H) -- Hide hatred for Christians at their celebrations.
Iore Dea (151,14) -- Not allowed to praise Christians to add to glory.
Iore Dea (146, 15) -- Refer to Christian religious articles with contempt.
Iore Dea (154,2) -- Forbidden to teach a trade to a Christian
Babha Bathra (54b) -- Christian property belongs to first person claiming.
Choschen Ham(183,7) -- Keep what Christian overpays in error.
Choschen Ham(226,1) -- Jew may keep lost property of Christian found by Jew.
Babha Kama (113b) -- It is permitted to deceive Christians.
Choschen Ham(183,7) -- Jews must divide what they overcharge Christians.
Iore Dea (157,2) H -- May deceive Christians that believe Christian tenets.
Abhodah Zarah (54a) --Usury may be practiced upon Christians or apostates.
Iore Dea (159,1) -- Usury permitted now for any reason to Christians.
Babha Kama (113a) -- Jew may lie and perjur to condemn a Christian.
Babha Kama (113b) -- Name of God not profaned when lying to Christians.
Kallah (1b, p.18) -- Jew may perjure himself with a clear conscience.
Schabbouth Hag. (6d). -- Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording.
Zohar (1,160a). -- Jews must always try to deceive Christians.
Iore Dea (158,1) -- Do not cure Christians unless it makes enemies.
Choschen Ham.(425,5) -- Unless believes in Torah do not prevent his death.
Iore Dea (158,1) -- Christians not enemies must not be saved either.
Hilkkoth Akum (X,1) -- Do not save Christians in danger of death.
Abhodah Zorah (26b) -- Apostates to be thrown into well, not rescued.
Choschen Ham(388,15) -- Kill those who give Israelites' money to Christians
Sanhedrin (59a) -- 'Prying into Jews' "Law" to get death penalty
Hilkhoth Akum(X,2) -- Baptized Jews are to be put to death
Iore Dea(158,2)Hag. -- Kill renegades who turn to Christian rituals.
Choschen Ham(425,5) -- Those who do not believe in Torah are to be killed.
Zohar (I,25a) -- Christians are to be destroyed as idolators.
Zohar (II,19a) -- Captivity of Jews end when Christian princes die.
Zohar (I,219b) -- Princes of Christians are idolators, must die.
Abhodah Zarah(26b) T. -- "Even the best of the Goim should be killed."
Sepher Or Israel 177b -- If Jew kills Christian commits no sin.
Ialkut Simoni (245c) -- Shedding blood of impious offers sacrifice to God.
Zohar (II, 43a) -- Extermination of Christians necessary sacrifice.
Zohar (L,28b,39a) -- High place in heaven for those who kill idolators.
Hilkhoth Akum(X,1) -- Make no agreements and show no mercy to Christians
Hilkhoth Akum (X,1) -- Either turn them away from their idols or kill.
Hilkhoth Akum (X,7) -- Allow no idolators to remain where Jews are strong.
Pesachim (49b) -- No need of prayers while beheading on Sabbath.
Schabbath (118a). -- Prayers to save from punishment of coming Messiah.

Yep, them Jews are a really swell bunch tolerant people.

[Armenian]

As an Orthodox Christian, I am very familiar with the above ideology found within the Talmud. Without a doubt, I think that the Talmud is perhaps the most anti-Christian, sexist and racist book ever written. However, one thing I am not clear about: How does the Talmud compare to the Torah?

[Cinderella]

As an Orthodox Christian, I am very familiar with the above ideology found within the Talmud. Without a doubt, I think that the Talmud is perhaps the most anti-Christian, sexist and racist book ever written. However, one thing I am not clear about: How does the Talmud compare to the Torah?

Actually, "compare" is not really a good way of putting it since they are parts of eachother. The Talmud is only a portion of the Torah. Here's what the Jews say about it.

Torah and Talmud

Just as the Bible is the foundation of Judaism, the Talmud is the central pillar supporting the entire spiritual and intellectual edifice of Jewish life. The Talmud, in the broader sense of the term, is made up of two components: the Mishnah, which is the first written summary of the Oral Law, and the Gemara (called Talmud in the more restricted sense of the term), which is formally an explanation and commentary on the Mishnah. The legal and practical value of the Talmud is obvious, but this does not explain its centrality and vital importance for Judaism.

In order to understand and appreciate the unique nature of the Talmud, one must first have a clear understanding of the unique Jewish concept of Torah study, of which studying the Talmud is a distinctive and characteristic part.

...

If we understand the overall nature and purpose of the Torah, we can then understand and appreciate the special nature of that portion of it known as the Talmud.

http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/steinsaltz-torah-talmud/

So when someone says that the Talmud and Torah aren't the same thing, that's not exactly true. The Talmud in itself is not the Torah, but it is contained within the Torah. So when a Jew says he doesn't follow the Talmud, but follows the Torah. He's lying.

[Sip]

Who's forcing you to like Jews?

[LadySilver]

You don't have to like Jews. It's your choice.

[Siamanto]

Shut the f*ck up, Siamanto. He didn't say anything wrong. Don't start a fight.

I'm not starting a fight. Simply decrying a belligerant watchdog and an intolerantly obsessive witch hunt.
Sip starts what you call a "fight" in each thread that disagrees with his narrow minded self!

[Sip]

What's bugging you Siamanto?

[Siamanto]

What's bugging you Siamanto?

Can't you read?

The question is what's bugging you? What do you intentionally create chaos and havoc each time the content of a thread disagress with your tiny mind? How do you call this witch hunt?

[Sip]

LadySilver posted the same thing as me so now we are all tiny minded? I appologize if we don't live up to your level.

[Siamanto]

LadySilver posted the same thing as me so now we are all tiny minded? I appologize if we don't live up to your level.

It is your repetitive and obsessive - Pavlovian - behavior! Don't cowardly hide behind others, at least have the courage to face yourself! LadySilver does not systematically and intentionally create chaos and havoc in every thread that offends her views and beliefs.