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  • #21
    Originally posted by Sip
    Don't let them make you feel bad. Their mission with all their jew threads is to create some sort of sensationalized version of what is really happening ... You don't need to "keep your mouth shut" ... Whenever someone shows up saying this group or that group is all bad, you should take it with a grain of salt and question their true motives

    The sure way to tell whether someone is biased or not is if they have nothing good ever to say about a very complicated subject. Real life is always a lot more complicated than that.
    Don't distort what others say to fit your own agenda. They don't necessarily mean what you want to hear. With every new post you sink a little lower on the moral scale.

    You constantly attempt to ploarize the situation in order to kill the thread and sabotage the debate.
    Last edited by Siamanto; 08-03-2005, 06:28 PM.
    What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.

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    • #22
      Oh I know I'm just not into the whole talk talk then argue over something stupid trend thats going on here lately.

      Just wanted to know Cinderella's reasoning.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by LadySilver
        Cinderella do you hate all Jews? Or is it just something that happened a specific time?
        Well, I used to have a Jewish boyfriend and and..............just Kidding!

        Actually, I never liked or disliked Jews even though I always found them a little strange, but I guess you can say that about many other people too.

        Anyway, I guess you can say it was something that happened a specific time. It was back in 1999 when I got a hold of two articles regarding Jews and their denials of the Armenian Genocide. One was from Azbarez and I think the other was from Harout Sasoonian. I posted these two articles at a forum without any opinion or comment of my own and I got attacked(by a couple of the posters one of which turned out to be a Jew posing as a Serb) for posting "anti-semitic" posts (kind of like what we saw here the past few weeks). Even though I explained that it was just an article and I had said nothing that could be considered even remotely anti-semitic, it didn't matter, I was an anti-semitic Jew hater and said I was posting neo-Nazi trash.

        So they wanted a fight and they got one. The Jews think that they can do and say whatever the hell they want to and no one should say anything about it or they'll start screaming, "NAZI NAZI, HATE HATE HATE!" Well they can scream all they want because I'm not nearly done with them.

        Incedently, I did a lot of research since then and I found quite a bit of dirt on the chosen filth. I found out that they weren't just denying the AG openly now, but I found out why they were denying the AG and I found out that they were in it up to their eyebrows.

        I also found out where the Holocaust word originated and exactly how and when the Jews decided to adopt that word for themselves and pretend that it happened to them and no one else, not before and not since.

        I also found out how the Jews have been immitating us Armenians even since WWI and the AG in order to gain world sympathy and collect money by pretending that what happened to us actually happened to them. This way they kill two birds with one stone. They get to make a bunch of money and they prevent aid from reaching the Armenians. I have a story called "The Jew, the Cuckoo and Brooding Parasitism" which I'll save for another time.


        Therefore I have every right to expose them for what they are. I have every right to expose thier involvement in the AG. And I have every right to be insulting and hateful, racist or whatever to them as they are to the Nazis and more, because what the Nazis allegedly did to the Jews was a Sunday picknick compared to what the Armenians endured.

        So in my opinion, the Jews can take their holohoax BS and stick it, because I'm not buying any of it especially since I also discovered how much of it was actually pure Jewish BS. Soap and lampshades indeed!
        "that was the renegade Hebrew (donmeh) of Salonika, Talaat, the principal organizer of the massacres and deportations," Rafael De Nogales. Four Years Beneath the Crescent. 1926. p.27

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        • #24
          Alright thanks that's all I wanted to know and it's understandable.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Siamanto
            Cinderella,
            Of course you can criticize any group that has pro-*urkish or anti-Armenian policies; but should you react to Sip's provocation and mention the "lampshade stories?" Why are you discrediting your own cause? Let's focus on what is of interest to us, Armenians. Thanks!
            Sip's provocation? HAHAHA! You gotta be kidding. I'm just amazed that he doesn't realize how retarded we think he is. I have never come accross a more insignificant turd on the www and he can't even form a proper sentence most of the time.

            As for the lampshade story, that along with the soap and the 6 million is a test for these self appointed "experts" and "genocide/holocaust scholars". Meanwhile, they're a bunch of fkn goofs that read a few books and saw some crap on TV and now they're experts and scholars, but in reality, they don't know s*it. I ask them those three basic questions.

            1. Did the Nazis make soap out of dead Jews, YES or NO?

            2. Did the Nazis make lampshades out of dead Jews. YES or NO?

            3. Did 6 million Jews die in this alleged holocaust, YES or NO?

            Most of the time these morons who call themselves experts and scholars don't even know the answer to number 1 and 2. When it comes to number 3, "some" admit that it wasn't six and go by the accepted reduced 4 million but there are stilkl plenty out that that jump up and down swearing that 6 million died even when the Jews themselves admit that it was close to 4 million (for mow).

            The point is I really don't care what people think of me because I know what I'm saying are all provable facts and I'm not about to compromise the truth for anything. You may think that it might discredit me or my cause, but I think that's what might happen in the long term if Armenians keep repeating these 6 million Jew lies. If they keep repeating the Jew lies and one day when the holocauster ride is finally over, then everyone is going to say that Armenians were lying about the holohoax, so they must be lying about their alleged genocide too and can't be trusted because they are just like the Jews.

            I really can't understand why I have to accept fairy tales and soap operas as facts just because some or most people still believe that nonsense. I really can't bring myself to go with the flow.
            "that was the renegade Hebrew (donmeh) of Salonika, Talaat, the principal organizer of the massacres and deportations," Rafael De Nogales. Four Years Beneath the Crescent. 1926. p.27

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            • #26
              Cinderella,
              Do you think that we can discuss the role of the influential Jewish organizations and Israel in the denial of the Armenian Genocide by respecting certain constraints - even if, at first, that may seem to limit the discussion - such as:
              1- Avoid discussing the Jewish Genocide
              2- Respecting forum rules
              3- Ignoring provocation from winoman, Sip and the likes. They will continue their scheme

              Even if such constraints will/may make the discussion a bit more difficult - or challenging - at least a debate e will/may be a possibility. One should first look for a solution and later improve it.

              For instance, a newly hired engineer often has to rethink the solution of a problem that he/she perfectly masters and have already implemented many times, according to
              1- Particularities of a given situation
              2- Corporate Culture
              3- He should also learn to avoid Corporate Politics and attempt to sabotage the solution.

              Can we please be more moderate and focused? Can we be a bit more "professional?" Thanks!
              What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Cinderella
                I really can't understand why I have to accept fairy tales and soap operas as facts just because some or most people still believe that nonsense. I really can't bring myself to go with the flow.
                I believed it when I was 13, at least my 7th grade history teacher recited the story.

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                • #28
                  I agree with you, however...

                  I also found out how the Jews have been immitating us Armenians even since WWI and the AG in order to gain world sympathy and collect money by pretending that what happened to us actually happened to them. This way they kill two birds with one stone. They get to make a bunch of money and they prevent aid from reaching the Armenians.
                  Armenians started demanding recognition and reparation in the 1950s, when the Jewish Holocaust was already recognized. Could you clarify?

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                  • #29
                    I'm kind of sick of hearing Jew repeatedly.

                    Can I use synonyms instead?

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Cinderella
                      ... because what the Nazis allegedly did to the Jews was a Sunday picknick compared to what the Armenians endured.!...
                      You are doing exactly what you blame the Jews for doing to the Armenians and you are frankly being quite stupid and disregarding all the help individual Jews have given to Armenians and Armenia. I personally know a handful of Jews who are very well aquainted with the Armenian community and respect and cherish their friendship with the community. And i know Jews who helped my father root himself in this country when rich "Armenians" lied and cheated him in his worst of times.
                      Dont take some propoganda so easily and you yourself should sometime question the little things which you read which get you so impassioned, dont be so easily swayed. And meet some Jews before you go on a tirade against their whole race. A lot of them aren't bad people, and as much as many may rub you OR me the wrong way, your being quite unfair with your judgements and your astounding biting criticisms. You said yourself you have seen 1 Jew. A few of my closest friends are Jews. And as much as each of them has a problem, they are no more than my Armenian or other Christian friends. Everyone has their flaws, your view depends on which angle you take and who you put yourself against.

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