The Shackles of Armenian Art

[thedebutante]

Look, I'm an artist, my father's an artist, and many of my father's acquaintances are artists including some in Armenia. Everyone has there sites set on the big picture, that's no secret. But exhibits around the world are not common and everyone starts locally. People develope themselves locally. And locally, there are no non-Armenians in Armenia. You can't agree with one and disagree with the other because they are so tied together.

well, then maybe this is true of the artists YOU know. i'm just gonna take all of your generalizations about armenian artists as things you've observed in your own community of artists. that's the only thing i wanted to clarify about your initial post. based on what i know, armenian artists from armenia have a a huge international influence, since their patrons (both armenian and non-armenian) come from all over the world as opposed to from armenia. developing themselves locally is not gonna do these artists much since the locals have barely enough money to survive let alone any funds left over to buy these artists' artwork. anyway, i'm actually working on a research grant to write a paper in armenia next summer on this exact topic. so if you'd like, i'll post what i find.

[Stark Evade]

well, then maybe this is true of the artists YOU know. i'm just gonna take all of your generalizations about armenian artists as things you've observed in your own community of artists. that's the only thing i wanted to clarify about your initial post. based on what i know, armenian artists from armenia have a a huge international influence, since their patrons (both armenian and non-armenian) come from all over the world as opposed to from armenia. developing themselves locally is not gonna do these artists much since the locals have barely enough money to survive let alone any funds left over to buy these artists' artwork. anyway, i'm actually working on a research grant to write a paper in armenia next summer on this exact topic. so if you'd like, i'll post what i find.

I don't get what you're still arguing. Did I not accept that Armenians in Armenia are less likely to mention the AG? I do not restrict my observations to my community though Los Angeles happens to have the largest Armenian community outside of Armenia, and probably a good example of how the diaspora conducts themselves in a city of significant importance with respect to the mediums of art.

I don't think you understand what I mean by developement. Artists develope themselves. They are in a constant process of choosing their artistic goals and styles and influences and if an artist is just beginning, he becomes a product of the local artistic and social climate. For that reason, an Armenian artist beginning his development in Armenia would be most concerned about his Armenian surroundings and what ever development he makes after he moves to an international forum woiuld be derived from that initial state. Also, if a given set of artists begin their developement in an environment where the AG is less of an issue they are less likely to express it.

[thedebutante]

I don't get what you're still arguing.

For that reason, an Armenian artist beginning his development in Armenia would be most concerned about his Armenian surroundings and what ever development he makes after he moves to an international forum woiuld be derived from that initial state.

well gosh then let me clarify. the above sentence that i quoted is what i'm arguing about. you're making these groundless generalizations based on your perception of how an armenian artist FROM armenia develops (something you probably have no real clue about to begin with). to make this short, i'm refuting your claim that diasporan armenian artists have more influence on the international scene than armenian artists from armenia.

[Stark Evade]

well gosh then let me clarify. the above sentence that i quoted is what i'm arguing about. you're making these groundless generalizations based on your perception of how an armenian artist FROM armenia develops (something you probably have no real clue about to begin with). to make this short, i'm refuting your claim that diasporan armenian artists have more influence n the international scene than armenian artists from armenia.

No. Sorry. I am basing my point on how all artists of any ethnicity develope in any country.

[thedebutante]

No. Sorry. I am basing my point on how all artists of any ethnicity develope in any country.

no, my apologies. it's because you're all-knowing and anything-believing.

[Stark Evade]

no, my apologies. it's because you're all-knowing and anything-believing.

(May we note who has first resorted to personal insults.) You should go get raped for being so flagrantly lacking in creativity and cleverness. Hell I don't even get the pint of being "anything-believing." Where the prick did that come from? Seriously.

You're getting pissed because of incredulity of ignorance. You've never heard of such a thing and so it must be wrong. You, who have actually met artists (wow!), must automatically understand anything of credibility and everything else is bunk, right?

[Stark Evade]

no, my apologies. it's because you're all-knowing and anything-believing.

(May we note who has first resorted to personal insults.) You flagrantly lack in creativity and cleverness. Hell I don't even get the point of being "anything-believing." Where the prick did that come from? Seriously.

You're getting pissed because of incredulity of ignorance. You've never heard of such a thing and so it must be wrong. You, who have actually met artists (wow!), must automatically understand anything of credibility and everything else is bunk, right?

[thedebutante]

(May we note who has first resorted to personal insults.) You flagrantly lack in creativity and cleverness. Hell I don't even get the point of being "anything-believing." Where the prick did that come from? Seriously.

You're getting pissed because of incredulity of ignorance. You've never heard of such a thing and so it must be wrong. You, who have actually met artists (wow!), must automatically understand anything of credibility and everything else is bunk, right?

so be it


looks like i got starky all riled up

[Stark Evade]

So easy to think such things
by interpreting emotionless
words however it would suit
you, is it not?

[thedebutante]

indeed it is

i knew you'd deny it