Irony of religion

[Anahita]

Re: Irony of religion

I don't. I don't believe strongly about any religion (including the anti-religion as you mean it)....

But the anti-religion I have doesn't say that "there is no God" ... it just says that religion can't be proven right so there is really no reason to "believe" in it as The Truth (it's the tired old agnostic/atheist/etc debate).

Well said.

I think too many people confuse religion with the divine. I like that bumper sticker, “God is too big to fit into a religion.” (and also that one... "We make a great team. I'm lost, you follow." )



Antecendent unclear in these metaphysical/supernatural 'phone calls' :

--Headstrong, Trapt
Back off I’ll take you on
Headstrong to take on anyone
I know that you are wrong and this is not where you belong
I can’t give everything away
I won’t give everything away


--One Thing Correct, Finger Eleven
If I traded it all
If I gave it all away for one thing
Just for one thing
If I sorted it out
If I knew all about this one thing
Wouldn’t that be something?


--Give It Away Now, Chili Peppers
Never been a better time than right now

Bob marley poet and a prophet
Bob marley taught how to off it
Bob marley walkin’ like he talk it
Goodness me can’t you see I’m gonna cough it

Give it away give it away give it away now

Give it away now
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Give it away now

--Big Yellow Taxi, Counting Crows (differs from Joni’s)
I don't wanna give it
Why you wanna give it
Why you wanna giving it all away
Hey, hey, hey
Now you wanna give it
I should wanna give it
Now you wanna giving it all away

--Real Situation, Bob Marley
Check out the real situation:
Nation war against nation.
Where did it all begin?
When will it end?

--No Woman, No Cry, Bob Marley
Good friends we have, oh, good friends we've lost
Along the way.
In this great future, you can't forget your past;
So dry your tears, I seh.

No, woman, no cry;
No, woman, no cry.
'Ere, little darlin', don't shed no tears:
No, woman, no cry.

--Battlefield of Love, Lenny Kravitz
I am a soldier
A casualty of love
I've been from heaven
All the way to hell
I've had a journey
Much more than I can tell
I've got stories
Much more than I can sell

(Give it away now)

...

I'll take shytty music for $1000, Alex.

--If I Ever Lose My Faith in You, Sting
You could say I lost my faith in science and progress
You could say I lost my belief in the holy church
You could say I lost my sense of direction
You could say all of this and worse but

If I ever lose my faith in you
There'd be nothing left for me to do

Some would say I was a lost man in a lost world
You could say I lost my faith in the people on TV
You could say I'd lost my belief in our politicians
They all seemed like game show hosts to me

)

[Anahita]

Some 'soup' for Tomservo

--Chick 'N Stew, System of a Down

This ballgame's in the refrigerator, door is closed,
Lights are out, butter's getting hard

Need therapy, therapy,
Advertising causes need

[One-Way]

Re: Irony of religion

When did this become a song lyrics thread?

[Anahita]

Re: Irony of religion

When did this become a song lyrics thread?

Well, how about you tell me why you're a goddess and why I should believe you are, and we'll go from there

[One-Way]

Re: Irony of religion

I can sense the tension between us growing.

[Anahita]

Re: Irony of religion

I can sense the tension between us growing.

But, what sense are you using? I love you. I don't have tension, do you?

[One-Way]

Re: Irony of religion

Nope.

[Anahita]

Re: Irony of religion

Nope.

Ok then...

I hope you don't feel that I'm making fun of religion. I think what you (not just you, but in general) think/believe is great, for you, so long as your religion doesn't harm. (Christianity has done both major harm, and good...) I just have a very hard time with 'religion' being forced onto others. Religion and ethics are very different things. Tell me something about what you think is unethical, and we'll have a discussion.

Many issues 'debated' right now in politics are not 'debated' at all. They are 'faith based.' I am VERY certain that some of these 'faith based' arguments are BUNK.

But, if tell me the reason is 'someone said so,' how can we have a discussion?

So... let's talk.

[One-Way]

Re: Irony of religion

Religion isn't forced onto anyone.

[Anahita]

Re: Irony of religion

Religion isn't forced onto anyone.

http://etext.virginia.edu/salem/witchcraft/

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAmccarthyism.htm

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20040920/carroll

Quick sample.


I LOVE THIS SONG...


--Christians and the Pagans, Dar Williams

Amber called her uncle, said "Were up here for the holiday,
Jane and I were having solstice, now we need a place to stay."

And her Christ-loving uncle watched his wife hang Mary on a tree,
He watched his son hang candy canes all made with red dye number three.

He told his niece, its Christmas eve, I know our life is not your style,

She said, Christmas is like Solstice, and we miss you and its been awhile,

So the Christians and the Pagans sat together at the table,
Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able,

And just before the meal was served, hands were held and prayers were said,

Sending hope for peace on earth to all their gods and goddesses.

The food was great, the tree plugged in, the meal had gone without a hitch,

Till Timmy turned to Amber and said, "Is it true that you're a witch?"

His mom jumped up and said, "The pies are burning," and she hit the kitchen,

And it was Jane who spoke, she said, "It's true, your cousin's not a Christian," but we love trees, we love the snow, the friends we have, the world we share,

And you find magic from your god, and we find magic everywhere

So the Christians and the Pagans sat together at the table,
Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able.

And where does MAGIC come from? I think magic's in the learning,

Cause now when Christians sit with Pagans only pumpkin pies are burning.

When amber tried to do the dishes, her aunt said, "Really, no, dont bother."

Amber's uncle saw how Amber looked like Tim and like her father.

He thought about his brother, how they hadn't spoken in a year,

He thought he'd call him up and say, "It's Christmas and your daughters here."

He thought of fathers, sons and brothers,

so then his own son tugs his sleeve, saying, "Can I be a Pagan?

Dad said, "We'll discuss it when they leave."

So the Christians and the Pagans sat together at the table,
Finding faith and common ground the best that they were able,

Lighting trees in darkness, learning new ways from the old, and Making sense of history and drawing warmth out of the cold.