How big is your footprint on the Earth?

[Quarteria]

Re: How big is your footprint on the Earth?

If you are justifying your ideas by theology, I’d suggest that you interpret those words very different than you do. Humans are supposed to be responsible stewards and live in reverence, not live as destroyers and dominators (which is very offensive to the creator).

It's just, this way has worked for well over 6,000 years, is all. If it was very offensive, He would never have stated it.

Also, I'm justifying my ideas by that being the case, and, right now, everybody in the world could live comfortably in the state of Texas. We could all fit, and with a decent amount of room, and have enough to eat.

[Quarteria]

Re: The Ankap Thread

He didn't say which you like, but which has more value. That's not quite the same as saying which do you prefer... Mankind includes you too, you know.

And littering is just stupid. Can you not make it to a damn trash can? You wouldn't throw garbage on the ground in your home, so don't do it where others spend time. I'm sure you would avoid going somewhere where you have to walk around trash or where it's all over the place. The more people who litter, the more likely that's what our surroundings will look like. That's less about environmentalism and more about cleanliness.

"Now listen, I don't know what I think of George W. Bush when he first got in, but I've grown fond of the man, and maybe it's the times we live in. They say he's not an environmentalist. But every time I see his ranch on tv, it looks pretty nice. You know something, if we all took care of our own, we'd have a great environment." --Commedian Dennis Miller

[Anahita]

Re: The Ankap Thread

http://www.airamericaradio.com/stateofbelief/

Show on right now: Faith and the Environment

Listen on air: http://www.airamericaradio.com/stations
Listen online:http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen

I don't agree with all that is said there, but much of it.

Otto3, see the Global Warming and How big is your Footprint threads for more of a response...
I support fair trade. http://oxfam.org/

[bell-the-cat]

Re: How big is your footprint on the Earth?

It's just, this way has worked for well over 6,000 years, is all.

Ever since the night preceding the twenty-third day of October, yes?

Jeezz - we have a real, live, fundamentalist Creationist on our forum! But, honestly, I don't know whether just to laugh at you, or suggest you get medical attention.

[Anahita]

Re: How big is your footprint on the Earth?

Ever since the night preceding the twenty-third day of October, yes?

Jeezz - we have a real, live, fundamentalist Creationist on our forum! But, honestly, I don't know whether just to laugh at you, or suggest you get medical attention.

There are certainly more than one of those. So, I have to put the message in whatever form a particular audience can understand—based on what they already think they ‘know.’

[Otto3]

Re: The Ankap Thread

http://www.airamericaradio.com/stateofbelief/

Show on right now: Faith and the Environment

Listen on air: http://www.airamericaradio.com/stations
Listen online:http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen

I don't agree with all that is said there, but much of it.

Otto3, see the Global Warming and How big is your Footprint threads for more of a response...
I support fair trade. http://oxfam.org/

if you dont buy it they wont sell it... so you are as bad as anybody if you consume... you should stop consuming if you want tohave the right to post about nature... thats what i think... consumer

[Anahita]

Re: The Ankap Thread

if you dont buy it they wont sell it... so you are as bad as anybody if you consume... you should stop consuming if you want tohave the right to post about nature... thats what i think... consumer

The kind and quantity of consumption matters. For example, coffee can't be grown where I live. If I wanted coffee, I would purchase fair trade, organic, shade grown coffee that supports small farmers by providing them a living wage (eliminating middle men so that the producer gets most of the economic value), protects some rainforest habitat and isn't grown with poison. I am both a low-impact conscious ecological consumer and a producer.


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[Otto3]

Re: The Ankap Thread

everybody knows what i mean... including you... fair and simple...

[Anahita]

Re: The Ankap Thread

Yes, fair trade just makes sense (plus rural producers usually also grow some of their own food, as well, and that improves local/regional food security.)

Shade grown (only one of many fair trade examples) pictures:

http://www.rainforestrelief.org/contentimages/Shade-Grown-Organic-Montage.gif

I am not advocating that intact rainforest be further impacted, but that all coffee (as one example of a fair trade product) should be grown as the above, versus this 'industrial-style':

[Anonymouse]

Re: The Ankap Thread

That makes me an environmentalist? I litter when I want to, but I like nature more than human beings.

That's your prerogative. But if and when you try to control what other human beings should do in the name of the mythical 'global warming' Gods and start barking and harping on how 'bad' industrial capitalism is, I consider you no different than the Anahitas and the other environmental demigods.