Gas Reformulation

[Anahita]

Re: Gas Reformulation

Having lived in Iran for half my life, I can VERY comfortably say that a million nukes in the hands of the US is nothing compared to one nuke in the hand of those loonies.

As much as the world wants to b!tch and complain about the US, I doubt too many other nations could have handeled the cold war the way the US did. Just imagine if some radical and completely irrational state (like the current Iran or the previous Iraq or the current North Korea) had, at any point, even for a fraction of a second, the power that US has had. I think in that case, "saving gas" would not have been so high up on Anahita's list of problems with the "environment" (what environment? ).

I agree (about Iran). A key difference, though, is that with the Cold War, there were two superpowers not fighting due to 'mutually assured destruction.' Why is the US still spending trillions fighting the Cold War, when we should be thinking in an entirely new way? That's a question I have. (Because of long-standing defense contracts and the political power behind them, maybe?) The same goes with many new issues we have not encountered. Maybe the logic of a situation past doesn’t always apply to a new situation--that's true for the fossil fuel situation, too.


I think in that case, "saving gas" would not have been so high up on Anahita's list of problems with the "environment"
Please see:

http://forum.armenianclub.com/showpost.php?p=151451&postcount=2596

On the radio ‘deli’ today on MMM, we imagined having desert, first: http://www.truemajority.org/oreos/

You got the point, there. Without work towards real peace, the rest doesn't matter (and the people creating hell on Earth, won't be 'going' where they think they're 'going in the name of.') Acts and intents matter.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Gas Reformulation

Having lived in Iran for half my life, I can VERY comfortably say that a million nukes in the hands of the US is nothing compared to one nuke in the hand of those loonies.
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There is not a shred of credible evidence that Iran is developing a nuclear bomb.

[Anahita]

Re: Gas Reformulation

There is not a shred of credible evidence that Iran is developing a nuclear bomb.

Iran is trying to develop nuclear power, for sure. They aren't making weapons (even if they want to do so.)

More generally, a desire for weapons to get a place at the table won't stop until the major nuclear powers make this stop (like USA--and that means that the people of the US--demand that THEY ARE THE GOVERNMENT. We should 'take over' what was always ours in the US and not let some minority speak for all.)

The current US 'leadership' is creating, rather than solving a problem. The whole ugly thing (at least in the US) feeds off itself. Knowing their evil money link ties, I wouldn't expect otherwise.

This is all connected to ENERGY wants--economy addictions, etc.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Gas Reformulation

The current US 'leadership' is creating, rather than solving a problem. The whole ugly thing (at least in the US) feeds off itself. Knowing their evil money link ties, I wouldn't expect otherwise.

That's why they have fabricated the current crisis with Iran. It is to their benefit to make Americans live in a climate of perpetual crisis and fear. And I bet the current Iranian leadership are also benefiting in the same way, and talking up the problem to increase their own internal power and popularity. Try telling those who has made millions or billions of dollars out of the invasion of Iraq that the invasion was a bad thing, and they would just laugh. War is good for American business, and truth is bad for it.

[Anahita]

Re: Gas Reformulation

That's why they have fabricated the current crisis with Iran. It is to their benefit to make Americans live in a climate of perpetual crisis and fear. And I bet the current Iranian leadership are also benefiting in the same way, and talking up the problem to increase their own internal power and popularity. Try telling those who has made millions or billions of dollars out of the invasion of Iraq that the invasion was a bad thing, and they would just laugh. War is good for American business, and truth is bad for it.

I agree.

Diapers are removed for one of the same reasons they will be removed and disposed of...

Isn’t it interesting that they make non-issues into big stories to get attention while real harm is being done. They do that intentionally. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Thousands are being killed in an illegal war? Ooooh, but did you hear about _________? (insert irrelevant 'news'/drummed up issue)

And the mainstream media seems to soak it up and spew it out for them. I find that all very disgusting.