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  • #11
    Re: greetings from turkey

    Originally posted by satyagraha View Post
    thanks, zayravast. yeah, if one believes that he is the right side, he has to have the courage to tell the truth. so if you believe, for instance, that you have rights on the eastern anatolia ("western armenia" as you call), you can convince me if you are really right. i am not as dumb as you expect, be sure.



    this is not a good question, i think. but if you will relax if i express my thoughts, i believe a genocide happened. i truly believe that. but this is not the point. suppose i am an ordinary turkish citizen who believes that it was not a genocide? What would change? incidents of 1915 should not be the focus of our communication. we turks and armenians don't know each other yet. and you cannot talk about serious issues with someone who barely know. we should improve our communication, and the questions between our nations can be discussed, then.



    so who will speak the truth? Armenians speak their own truth between each other, so do the Turks. And nothing has changed since 1915. Just some countries recognized the genocide and some didn't. but i repeat, nothing has changed. we two nations will change the situation, we're going to solve this question. Of course, these are my thoughts.
    Finding common ground is more productive than looking for differences. Yes there was a genocide but that shouldn't stop Armenians and Turks forming friendships! China accuses Japan of atrocities (most countries agree on this), but China and Japan have diplomatic relations

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    • #12
      Re: greetings from turkey

      Originally posted by satyagraha View Post
      thanks, zayravast. yeah, if one believes that he is the right side, he has to have the courage to tell the truth. so if you believe, for instance, that you have rights on the eastern anatolia ("western armenia" as you call), you can convince me if you are really right. i am not as dumb as you expect, be sure.



      this is not a good question, i think. but if you will relax if i express my thoughts, i believe a genocide happened. i truly believe that. but this is not the point. suppose i am an ordinary turkish citizen who believes that it was not a genocide? What would change? incidents of 1915 should not be the focus of our communication. we turks and armenians don't know each other yet. and you cannot talk about serious issues with someone who barely know. we should improve our communication, and the questions between our nations can be discussed, then.



      so who will speak the truth? Armenians speak their own truth between each other, so do the Turks. And nothing has changed since 1915. Just some countries recognized the genocide and some didn't. but i repeat, nothing has changed. we two nations will change the situation, we're going to solve this question. Of course, these are my thoughts.
      All I have to say is that, look at History & do some research. We are not expressing our ideas we are basig facts according to History.
      Positive vibes, positive taught

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      • #13
        Re: greetings from turkey

        Of course there is just one truth, but all the people have their own reality. You cannot expect people to be expert historians, right? Besides, Armenian question is not about truth. Genocide is just a definition by UN. We should focus on the great tragedies beneath it. Be it a genocide or a deportation, what's the difference for the sufferers? So I mean Armenian genocide is not a historical issue, it is a continuously-contemporary problem between two nations. This question will be solved by ordinary people like you and me, not by historians or corrupted politicians.

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        • #14
          Re: greetings from turkey

          It is easy to talk when you have been in the "victors" side. The issue is that an ancient civilization has been forced out of the lands that they lived for more than 2500 years and almost all traces of their existence in those lands have been erased. We can talk as you much, this is not going to change however nor will it be forgotten.

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          • #15
            Re: greetings from turkey

            Peace isnt enough ,we need justice more...
            Last edited by Guest; 06-10-2008, 01:26 PM.

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            • #16
              Re: greetings from turkey

              Originally posted by Կարմիր Բ View Post
              It is easy to talk when you have been in the "victors" side.

              Victors? I never saw them as "Victors". Killing elderly men, unarmed men, women and children is far from being "victory".

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              • #17
                Re: greetings from turkey

                Originally posted by TXMENIAN View Post
                Victors? I never saw them as "Victors". Killing elderly men, unarmed men, women and children is far from being "victory".
                I'm assuming that's what Կարմիր meant when he put "victors" in quotation marks, TX.
                Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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                • #18
                  Re: greetings from turkey

                  Sorry, Slow somedays.

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