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[Vrtanes]

im anouns vrtanes esmerian, ev yes avsdralia ge nesdim, ges hay em yes. my armenian is not that good patz yes ge khosim ankleren ev araperen ev houneren, ev bidi askhadim hayeren sorvil! yes bidi ouzei lav khosil, hopefully i can learn better on this website

in exchange ill teach greek and arabic and i can teach people how to read in hebrew, russian, assyrian and korean as well i dont speak the languages that well at all but its fun to read and write in them:P

[yerazhishda]

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P.S. In Western Armenian, surnames always end in "եան", not "իան". I thought the same thing at first because in English-speaking countries they pronounce our names "esmeree-an" (4 syllables) when in fact the Armenian pronounciation would be "esmer-yan" (3 syllables). Ever notice how Eastern Armenian names always end in "yan"? This is how all Armenian names should be pronounced.

[yerazhishda]

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BTW, is your other half Arab? If so are you Levantine, Gulf, etc.?

[TomServo]

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Welcome. Ahlan wa sahlan. Yasou.

[MrHyeSev]

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Welcome!

[yerazhishda]

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Welcome. Ahlan wa sahlan. Yasou.

Du Araberen khosum es el? Gitum chei, inju sovorum eir?

[Federate]

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P.S. In Western Armenian, surnames always end in "եան", not "իան". I thought the same thing at first because in English-speaking countries they pronounce our names "esmeree-an" (4 syllables) when in fact the Armenian pronounciation would be "esmer-yan" (3 syllables). Ever notice how Eastern Armenian names always end in "yan"? This is how all Armenian names should be pronounced.

I've always found this interesting.

While in traditional orthography, we write it as «եան», for some reason we transliterate this to "ian" (ee-an) which is actually not correct. In reality, it should be transliterated to "ean". For example, Mamikonian should actually be Mamikonean. The pronunciation should be "e-an" given the fact that we write it as «եան». My guess as to why we transliterate it to "ian" is just because of the way it sounds when we call a last name at a faster speed.

As for the Eastern Armenian last names, the reason why it's transliterated to "yan" is because Eastern Armenians write their last names with «յան» ending and spelling. In Eastern Armenian, you read the letter « յ » like a "y" as opposed to Western Armenian where that same letter is read like an "h".

[yerazhishda]

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I've always found this interesting.

While in traditional orthography, we write it as «եան», for some reason we transliterate this to "ian" (ee-an) which is actually not correct. In reality, it should be transliterated to "ean". For example, Mamikonian should actually be Mamikonean. The pronunciation should be "e-an" given the fact that we write it as «եան». My guess as to why we transliterate it to "ian" is just because of the way it sounds when we call a last name at a faster speed.

I thought that I read somewhere that "ian" is the French transliteration. I could be wrong.

As for the Eastern Armenian last names, the reason why they transliterate it to "yan" is because they write their last names with «յան» ending and spelling. In Eastern Armenian, you read the letter « յ » like a "y" as opposed to Western Armenian where that same letter is read like an "h".

Regardless of whether you spell it «եան» կամ «յան» it should still be pronounced "yan", correct? This is why I would personally like to see all Armenian names transliterated as "____yan". Well, one can hope.

[yerazhishda]

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In Eastern Armenian, you read the letter « յ » like a "y" as opposed to Western Armenian where that same letter is read like an "h".

I found that out the hard way. My priest had me read one of his articles back to him (it was in EA). The word was «յոթ» and I read as "hōt" instead of "yōt". Needless to say, he quickly corrected me.

[Federate]

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I thought that I read somewhere that "ian" is the French transliteration. I could be wrong.

It's quite possible actually. Lebanon and Syria, where a big portion of AG survivors ended up, were both French mandates.

Regardless of whether you spell it «եան» կամ «յան» it should still be pronounced "yan", correct? This is why I would personally like to see all Armenian names transliterated as "____yan". Well, one can hope.

Well, since traditional orthography pre-dates the reformed one, everyone should've pronounced it as "e-an" but if you say that at a fast pace it does sound like a "yan"... so sure it would be alright