end to hate

[Siggie]

Re: end to hate

So I was off by 13 The death toll for Khojaly was 613, according to the site you linked me.

The point was that it's all misinformation. What else is new, right?

I don't see where the trolling comes from. All I saw was a Turkish woman who doesn't know the history of Armenians (best example: trying to compare Genocide with Khojaly) and wants to bridge the hate gap. I'm not saying that's possible, but she wasn't bashing you guys.

Trolling can be more subtle, like coming here pretending to be well-intentioned and then stating bullsh*t "facts" to incite the membership to respond.

[Tali]

Re: end to hate

The point was that it's all misinformation. What else is new, right?


Trolling can be more subtle, like coming here pretending to be well-intentioned and then stating bullsh*t "facts" to incite the membership to respond.

eh, at least people are starting to listen more. i just made a presentation about Armenians today in my sociology class.


ah, i see. thank you for letting me know

[Armanen]

Re: end to hate

Will an admin/mod please lock this thread?

[Tali]

Re: end to hate

Will an admin/mod please lock this thread?

not sure how likely that'lll occur, considering both admins and mods have commented on this thread without locking it

[endtohate]

Re: end to hate

It was revenge for the Pogroms of the Armenians in Baku and Sumgait (only 21 years ago) and raping of Armenian little girls in front of their parents, a lesson in your own medicine at a much smaller scale. Most were war crimes by Armenian soldiers but what the Azeri authorities did to their own dead bodies at Khojaly goes beyond human behavior dear madam and parallels Satanism, just like what the Azeris did to us in Baku.

You need to get your timeline straight, and combat deaths of Turkish army soldiers by Armenian defenders does not count as We Turks suffered as well, Armenians died fighting Ottoman Army too, do you consider them as suffering or just the Turks in the battlefield?

The past will never be forgotten; it is impossible........it is a curse upon you Turkish people instigated by your own government.
Those deaths will be revenged, sooner or later and no amount of empty apology or normalization of relations will change that. Your government will pay for this and the truth will tear the fabric of your Genocide denying society that is founded on lies apart, maybe then the Turks will wake up since your men are already going through a wussification process while us Armenians are becoming more extreme and determined to defend our existence and our lands, not to mention to deliver the head of Azena to your leaders (sort of speak).

Even then Madam, things between us will never ever be the same.
Deat lady, you go and tell your men that we will not rest until this big crime against humanity has been corrected and the suffering souls of the innocent victims is finally laid to rest.
Turkey can do it the easy way or the hard way, their choice. This will not just go away.

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There's an old saying in Turkish : "sutten cikma ak kasik "
If I translate mot a mot (word to word) it means: White spoon out of milk.
Literally it means: A very innocent, clean, (as white as milk) person.
So, the Armenians (in 1915) were innocent. They didn't do anything, they were totaly innocent and not quilty. They didn't kill Ottoman Turks, didn't torture etc.
DO YOU BELIEVE THESE YOURSELF AS WELL?

I'm not so biased and one-sided as you.
I know that Armenians (Armenian querrilas etc.)were as guiltly as Turks as well.

Even Armenian writers such as Etyen Mahchupian, writes in his book, that
it was not a genocide but a bilateral slaughter.
Armenians slaughtered Ottoman Turks
Ottoman Turks (according to some source not Turks but Kurdish) slaughtered Armenians.
What I don't understand the guilt of OTTOMAN EMPEROR is asked from me?
Is anybody asks to American citizens to pay the guilt of their ancestors who killed American natives?




I can show many other links and many historians, writers (not Turkish) who are not so biased and one-sided as you. But I dont't think they will be any use. Because there's no other person more blind than someone who don't want to see.


Armenian people say: Your grand grand grand father killed my grand grand grand father.
Turkish people say: Your grand grand grand father killed my grand grand grand father too.
Eeeee?
There's no end to this vendetta. At least I can accept that we were guilty but you don't accept your share in 1915 war. Because you only see the one side of the truth.

[KanadaHye]

Re: end to hate

The truth is so apparent even Stevie Wonder can see it. You're right, Kurds were involved in a lot of the killing because it was a negotiated and premeditated GENOCIDE. Were Armenians supposed to sit there and play dead as their relatives were being massacred, driven out of their villages and lead on death marches?

As long as the Turkish government denies the history, as long as Turks are taught these lies in schools, as long as our ancestral lands are occupied, there will be no end to this vendetta. Ending the hate is all up to Turks.

Feel free to read the material on this site pertaining to the Genocide of Armenians by Ottoman Turks.

[Siggie]

Re: end to hate

Okay, s/he has had the opportunity to say something worthwhile. Enough...
Don't spin your wheels guys, you know you won't persuade this guy.


endtohate, you weren't banned because we hate you; it's because I hate cats too much to be your friend and you made the mistake of putting them in your profile.

Tali, consider yourself warned.