Parev/hello from Istanbul

[Antifascist]

Re: Parev/hello from Istanbul

Wouldn't be surprised if Turks committed such an act. It's part of their Mongoloid nature.

These words of yours are not nice at all. As you should know from my introduction, I am against discrimination of ALL types.

Yes, Ittihat and Terrakki fascists (and the fascist thugs they hired for the genocide) were a disgrace to humanity.But why generalise about Turks ? I will tell you more on these issues later in other sections. I will tell you what I think were the main factors behind the genocide and behind the denial that has gone on till now.

But, please, no more such words.

[Antifascist]

Re: Parev/hello from Istanbul

Well I woundn't want to hear that you got your troat cut kneeling in front of the Ataturk's statue by your ultra nationalist brothers for denouncing the collective while you are cozying up with Armenian dogs .....those Turks don't bluff my Turkish friend.

No nationalist is my brother or friend, man ! Just because those fascists are Turks, you don't have to relate them to me. I dislike ALL nationalists.

[Antifascist]

Re: Parev/hello from Istanbul

My grandfather was a commie and fought in the Greek civil war against the right. But I have never really sympathized with communism or for that matter the anarchists. Communism may be good as an idea, but in practice it doesn`t really work. On the hand hand, capitalism is far from perfect, we can see how the states bails out the banks; I mean what kind of capitalism is that? First the bankers takes enormous risks and then if things goes wrong, the tax payers will have to pay for their wrongdoings. This is so wrong.

As for the anarchists, why can`t they demonstrate peacefully? Why do they have to burn cars, shops and destroy other peoples' property? I have never really understood that.

Speaking of soccer, I`m a soccermaniac! I would love to go to Euro 2012. But personally, I think watching the matches on TV is so much more comfortable and safer I think.

Which team do you support in Turkey?

I fully agree with your words, dear Alexandros. I sometimes go to political events and work together with communists and other leftists (in our struggle against fascists) but I actually see myself as an internationalist liberal democrat.

I like soccer a lot but I have been against the idea of supporting a team since about 10 years ago (I can tell you my reasons later). Before that, I was supporting Besiktas Istanbul. So, I am one of the few people in this world who like soccer without supporting a team

[Antifascist]

Re: Parev/hello from Istanbul

^^^They have shown me photoes of mutilated bodies of PKK fighters dragged with ropes in front of Ataturks statue......Graywolf style.

The Grey Wolves and their sympathisers are fascists. Ignore them. I mean, see them as a disgrace to humanity. That's what I do.

Don't you have fascist groups in Armenia similar to Grey Wolves ? Most countries have got them unfortunately.

[Antifascist]

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Wow. It is really tiring to answer all the questions and make comments on posts, one by one But I have tried to do that.

But, I would be grateful if you mainly ask me non-political questions in this section. I can discusss the political/historical stuff in the relevant sections of the forum. Thanks.

[Mos]

Re: Parev/hello from Istanbul

These words of yours are not nice at all. As you should know from my introduction, I am against discrimination of ALL types.

Yes, Ittihat and Terrakki fascists (and the fascist thugs they hired for the genocide) were a disgrace to humanity.But why generalise about Turks ? I will tell you more on these issues later in other sections. I will tell you what I think were the main factors behind the genocide and behind the denial that has gone on till now.

But, please, no more such words.

Many Turks willingly supported the Genocidal efforts during the early 1900s, which included acts against innocent people that only backwards, nomadic tribes would do. If not participating then supporting vocally. Till this day many see the barbarism as justified - such people have no place in the civilised world.

[Artashes]

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Dear Artashes,

I am someone who feels very bad and also angry about what happened to Armenians in 1915 (and also before 1915; as you possibly know, massacres happened between around 1890 and 1915 too). So I am someone who sympathises fully with you. I will later tell you more about how I became more and more sensitive on this issue; this is the introductory section of the forum so I don't want to get too much into such stuff here in this section.

I personally am interested in your :more sensitive comment:
I have only met a Turk 3 times . I always walk up to within arms reach and tell them I am Armenian.
On every occasion not a word was spoken . I did not acknowledge them from that time one.
Except for a participant at some in this forum by the handle " Vagharshapat" who is a Turkish citizen I have never experienced a Turk that conveyed any decency or humanity.
My family has told me from first hand experience that at no time since the very first time your kind attacked my family and throughout all of the hundreds of years of subjugation that even at the least harsh of the years your ancestors never truly treated use with respect and that their was --- always--- the understanding
That they had the right to do physical evil to us at any time --- because they were TURKS
I am interested in how you became ? Aware of my family.
Artashes

[Artashes]

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I failed to include this that my family told me about their experience with Turkish subjugation :
:no matter how hard we worked
No matter how humble we were
No matter how decently and humanely we treated them
They never respected our person
Artashes

[Artashes]

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Sorry for multiple posts my editor is on vacation and the secretary didn't show up( again ).
A burning question I have for you : what are your compatriots that you walk amongst in your daily life persepsions about all the people that have ( vanished ). Do they ever question why that place has so many Turks
and every one else is a minority?
Artashes

[gegev]

Re: Parev/hello from Istanbul

Parev/hello from Istanbul.

...
I am an anti-fascist. I oppose fascism and nationalism of ANY KIND.
Cem

Paaaaaaaaaaaarev - paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarev!

I see you are a real anti-fascist, therefore you have a lot to do in Turkey; alas it will take time for you fighting 70m-50m= 20,000,000 seljuk-Turks.

But I see you are brave man and you started to fight fascism outside of Turkey; first.

Good luck and don't forget fighting the rest of fascists in Turkey, at the end!!!

But please be careful at "opposing fascism and nationalism of ANY KIND" inside Turkey. We don't have too many anti-fascist fighters there, take care.