Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

Karabakh has a standing army of 20,000 to 25,000 soldiers. It has been judged as the one of most efficient, battle-ready, and organized armies by a number of military analysts and academic institutions.

There is no second Armenian state. It is just politics to show the international community that it is an issue of "self determination" and not a territorial issue, etc.. The Nagorno-Karabakh Republic will, sooner or later, officially become the Artsakh provide of the Republic of Armenia.

In the meanwhile, a foreigner visiting Artsakh would need an NKR visa.

In the future it could become a part of Armenia but now it's not. And thats what freaky doesn't want to believe.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

Ok, so now, you are saying that NKR is an independent Azerbaijani state. Make up your mind. And, don't rely solely on Wikipedia for information.

A nation within a hostile nation. Sheesh. You are killing me with this stuff.

Do you think Aliyev and Azerbaijan are concerned of the consequences from NKR troops, all 40k of them, if they attack NKR or the threat of all out war with Armenia supported by Russia?

Hmm. NKR population roughly 50k. Azerbaijan, population roughly 8.5 mil. Active Azeri forces roughly 100k, reserve of roughly 600k.

you aren't Armenian relly no hay could be that dum and know so little about our home lands really. And do you think that Ani Van KArs are Turkish Terretory or what.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

Karabakh has a standing army of 20,000 to 25,000 soldiers. It has been judged as the one of most efficient, battle-ready, and organized armies by a number of military analysts and academic institutions.

There is no second Armenian state. It is just politics to show the international community that it is an issue of "self determination" and not a territorial issue, etc.. The Nagorno-Karabakh Republic will, sooner or later, officially become the Artsakh provide of the Republic of Armenia.

In the meanwhile, a foreigner visiting Artsakh would need an NKR visa.

I do not dispute that the troops that defend Artsakh are exemplary. God bless them.

But, their free standing army is supported by the Armenian army which is supported by the Russian army.

Thank you for the clarification re: everything else. Artsakh is part and parcel of Armenia, and without Armenia, the diaspora and odars there is no Artsakh.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

If I'm not Armenian then why has atleast one Armenian in Armenia, who I don't even know, written a published book which includes information about my family's origins in Armenia. Esh!

[Artsakh]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

And a nation is independent when the people and the goverment of the nation declare it self independent and they can protect their independense. And not when people acknoldge their state.

Apres!

And that's the bottom line. We don't need a worthless piece of paper telling us that foreigners recognize us. The fact that our soliders, with the kalashnikovs hanging from their soldiers, who patrol our mountains tells us that we're independent.

If all we (Armenians) are after is the approval of foreigners, then you can consider the Armenian question solved. Here, here's a piece of paper telling us that western Armenia is ours:



In the meanwhile, the land is still under turkish military occupation. I wonder whats the worth of that paper.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

If I'm not Armenian then why has atleast one Armenian in Armenia, who I don't even know, written a published book which includes information about my family's origins in Armenia. Esh!

Maybe your family was hay but you aren't you don't know anything about Armenia you are just American scum. And please don't begin bragin about your family we are not in the second grade you know.

And Artsakh can you tell that too freaky the american.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

Certainly, I agree that we as Armenians should not identify ourselves by treaties that identify us when we are not one of the parties negotiating our own identification.

Yes, by the time the ink on that document dried, our nation was annexed into the Soviet Republic.

I'm assuming those kalashnikovs were manufactured in Armenia, yeah, right?

Whether you like it or not, nations exist because of the approval, implicit or explicit, voluntary or compelled, of foreigners.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

I believe that Artsakh has both corrected some of your points and agreed with your position that you must defend your nation. But, I don't think Artsakh is saying that NKR is an independent nation by any stretch of the imagination.

If so, then why is Armenia deciding NKR's fate at the negotiation table as Wilson attempted to decide Armenia's fate and why haven't NKR officials demanded, er, compelled their inclusion in the negotiations?

[Armenian]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

Does anyone know what is the point of this discussion? What exactly is the freaky idiot attempting to say? I simply don't get it

[crusader1492]

Re: Islamic nations recognize Turkish Cyprus

If I'm not Armenian then why has atleast one Armenian in Armenia, who I don't even know, written a published book which includes information about my family's origins in Armenia. Esh!

You may have Armenian lineage, but you are not Armenian...But, that's another debate.