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Every US president has to have a war - Gorbachev

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  • #11
    Re: Every US president has to have a war - Gorbachev

    McCain 'will' be the next president. This is xxxxing frightening. What is going on in this country? How long can this empire survive like this?
    Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

    Նժդեհ


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    • #12
      Re: Every US president has to have a war - Gorbachev

      Originally posted by North Pole View Post
      Hello, HayotzAmrotz.
      Don't be so rough on Gorbi. He was naiive back in the 1980s. But he grew up since then and turned into a... Russian patriot.
      Hello North Pole
      No, my friend, he was not naiive he was weak and scared.
      Had Andropov lived a little longer he would have never let the country to be ruined. Andropov was a patriot, Gorbi is a joke.

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      • #13
        Re: Every US president has to have a war - Gorbachev

        Originally posted by Armenian View Post
        McCain 'will' be the next president. This is xxxxing frightening. What is going on in this country? How long can this empire survive like this?
        I too think he will be the next president, and I doubt the empire will last for much longer after that. The yanks are going to have the taste of their own medicine for a change.

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        • #14
          Re: Every US president has to have a war - Gorbachev

          Mikhail Gorbachev: 'Every American president must wage war'

          08.05.2008 Source: Pravda.Ru

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          Mikhail Gorbachev: 'Every American president must wage war'Mikhail Gorbachev, the ex-president of the USSR, has accused the USA of the imperialistic conspir...


          Mikhail Gorbachev, the ex-president of the USSR, has accused the USA of the imperialistic conspiracy against Russia, which pushes the world to a new Cold War. He said that Washington has been increasing its military potential to prevent Russia’s revival. “The USA can’t put up with the fact that somebody in the world is independent on it,” Gorbachev told The Daily Telegraph. “Every American president must wage war,” he added.

          The former Soviet leader voiced confidence that Russia has no enemies and Putin is not going to wage war against the USA or any other country. He also believes that Putin as the prime minister will engage more in issues of international politics and will let Dmitry Medvedev concentrate on internal problems.

          “Nonetheless, we see that the USA is passing the defense budget and increasing costs of strengthening the conventional armed forces at the insistence of the Pentagon’s head because of the possible war with China or Russia. Sometimes I think that the USA intends to wage war against the entire world,” Gorbachev said.

          He also reminded of the USA’s plans to deploy elements of its missile system in Eastern Europe, which he described as ‘a very hazardous step’, because it will ‘raise the arms race to a much higher level’.

          He said that NATO’s promises to admit Georgia and Ukraine into the alliance were just an attempt to increase the US influence on Russia’s home affairs. “After the Cold War the USA promised that NATO would not go beyond Germany, but for the time being a half of countries of Central and Eastern Europe has joined the alliance. So much for their promises. That proves that we can not trust them,” the former Soviet leader said.

          It is not the first time when Gorbachev criticizes the incumbent US administration. Last December during his Harvard address Mr. Gorbachev said: “During the 1990s we witnessed regression from trust to mutual misunderstanding and suspicion.” The 1972 ABM Treaty was ignored by Bush, he said. “We are seeing remilitarization of reasoning in nuclear politics,” Gorbachev considered. “Now all nuclear powers base their politics on the long-term preservation of nuclear weapons, which is dangerous,” he said. “I reckon that it is conceit of the great power that is sure it can solve any problems by itself, which can prove costly,” he said. “We are paying the price now, and I think so is the USA.”

          Translated by Julia Bulygina
          Pravda.ru

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          • #15
            Re: Every US president has to have a war - Gorbachev

            Originally posted by Armenian View Post
            Real Americans are an endangered species in US politics. Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan are perhaps the last of the "real Americans" left in Washington DC.
            That is true.
            This is interesting: McCain Has the Most Lobbyists Raising Campaign Money

            From ABC:

            McCain's Lobbyist Friends Rally 'Round Their Man
            Group: Campaign Finance Reformer Has the Most Lobbyists Raising Campaign Money

            By AVNI PATEL and JOANNA JENNINGS
            Jan. 29, 2008

            Washington lobbyists and members of Congress gathered at a popular Capitol Hill bar and restaurant last night to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for GOP presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, whose staff refused to disclose exactly how much was raised or by whom.
            The invitation lists 24 lobbyists as "co-chairman" for the event. The lobbyists represent a range of industries, including the finance, telecommunications, technology and healthcare sectors.

            McCain has 59 lobbyists raising money for his campaign, more than any of the other presidential candidates, according to the latest finding from government watchdog group Public Citizen. The group, which advocates for public financing of elections, has identified more than 2,300 well-connected individuals, known as "bundlers," who have solicited contributions from friends and associates on behalf of a presidential candidate.

            READ MORE - http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4210251&page=1

            John McCain can't even get his lies straight....
            VIDEO - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

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            • #16
              Re: Every US president has to have a war - Gorbachev

              Ahh Gorbachov.The old times...he has become so old.

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              • #17
                Re: Every US president has to have a war - Gorbachev

                Originally posted by HayotzAmrotz View Post
                Hello North Pole
                No, my friend, he was not naiive he was weak and scared.
                Had Andropov lived a little longer he would have never let the country to be ruined. Andropov was a patriot, Gorbi is a joke.
                I disagree with you, HayotzAmrotz.

                Do you really think that the KGB would just allow some smooth-talking man to dismantle the USSR and do nothing about him?

                I am not a fan of Gorbachev but Perestroika was planned and KGB-controlled event.
                The USSR was broke. Its idiotic centralized, government-controlled economy was heading to nowhere. Gorbachev was just the right man to play a role, who as it seems to me, thought that it was him who was in charge....

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                • #18
                  Re: Every US president has to have a war - Gorbachev

                  If America is fighting the terrorist organizations like the Taliban and Al-Qaeda, than why does US held children in its prisons?

                  What's going on here?.....


                  U.S. held hundreds of children in Iraq: Russia’s UN ambassador

                  May 28, 2008, 15:43

                  Speaking at a UN Security Council meeting on the protection of civilians in armed conflicts, Russia's ambassador Vitaly Churkin said that around 900 youngsters have been held in coalition prisons in Iraq.



                  Russia's ambassador Vitaly Churkin



                  Churkin said: “The involvement of children in armed conflicts and their inhumane treatment is intolerable.
                  “We want to draw attention to the imprisonment of underage people in the military jails of the multinational forces in Iraq, which is contrary to international standards,” he said.


                  Meantime, Amnesty International has presented its annual report on the human rights situation worldwide. It's challenged world leaders to apologise for six decades of human rights failure.
                  Its ‘Report 2008’ shows that 60 years after the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was adopted by the United Nations, people are still tortured or ill-treated in at least 81 countries. The pressure group says unfair trials are carried out in at least 54 countries and people are not allowed to speak freely in at least 77 countries.

                  VIDEO - http://russiatoday.ru/news/news/25366/video

                  McCain laughs, Sings Bomb Iran - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAzBxFaio1I

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                  • #19
                    Re: Every US president has to have a war - Gorbachev

                    Originally posted by HayotzAmrotz View Post
                    Hello North Pole
                    No, my friend, he was not naiive he was weak and scared.
                    Had Andropov lived a little longer he would have never let the country to be ruined. Andropov was a patriot, Gorbi is a joke.
                    Actually, I agree with you -- Andropov was a hardcore KGB man.

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                    • #20
                      Re: Every US president has to have a war - Gorbachev

                      America, you are committing war crimes.

                      From Reuters:
                      Rights group attacks US over Iraq child detentions

                      Wed May 21, 2008 1:56pm EDT

                      By Adrian Croft

                      BAGHDAD, May 21 (Reuters) - Hundreds of children held by U.S. forces in Iraq should be given immediate access to lawyers and have their cases reviewed promptly by an independent judicial body, a rights group said on Wednesday.

                      Human Rights Watch said U.S. military authorities were holding 513 Iraqi children as of May 12 as "imperative threats to security".
                      Since the March 2003 U.S.-led invasion, the United States has detained 2,400 children under the age of 18 in Iraq, including some as young as 10, it said.

                      Child detainees were sometimes interrogated over days or weeks by military units in the field before being sent to main detention centres and had no real opportunity to challenge their detention, the human rights group said.

                      "The vast majority of children detained in Iraq languish for months in U.S. military custody," said Clarisa Bencomo, a researcher for Human Rights Watch.

                      READ MORE - http://www.reuters.com/article/featu.../idUSL21923136

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