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  • jgk3
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    Re: Neo Iranians: The Case of Azeri Turks

    Originally posted by oslonor View Post
    Aryans originate from this area

    Yeah, I believed in Mallory's stance on that matter for a while too, but there are contrasting theories that hold good ground too. Apparently the idea that Aryans originated from the south of the Black Sea is not seen as such a joke anymore in academic circles. Nonetheless, the general consensus is that they lived around the Black Sea.

    The main differences between theorists today lie in what economic and lifestyle factors influenced the diffusion of PIE through it's migrants leaving the homeland. Other problems include the reality of Hittite and Tocharian being these sort of outliers of Indo-European languages in their grammars in a way that suggests they split from PIE very early. My professor for one of my classes has shown me that this is especially the situation with Hittite in terms of morpho-syntactic structure for masculine-feminine-neuter distribution in the vocabulary. Their genders were not categorized like any Indo-European concept we are used to seeing. They had 2: 1 was a hybrid of masculine and feminin, and 2 was a hybrid of feminine and neuter. The feminine gender if you will was understood through morphemes from both categories, and the vocabulary for feminine words did not share/switch between the two categories, each word apparently would keep to one of them even though semantically they were both feminine.

    The system it used sheds light on a very archaic feature of PIE that did not seem to survive anywhere else, and early Mycenaean Greek inscriptions from 1700BC, which are neither far away geographically nor chronologically, show evidence that the female gender has completely diffused from the masculine and has assumed what was once the archaic neuter morpheme.

    Perhaps you find this domain of inquiry boring and not bearing much insight on anything you're interested in, and that's understandable because you don't seem too concerned with the human language faculty and how our inquiry of what it's managed to produce throughout history, growing out of several thought provoking socio-linguistic circumstances, reflect us today and how we've emerged to have all our modern day diversities and similarities, what tools humanity has used to shape the world as it has, etc...

    Oslonor, it is quite pointless to cite the origin of Aryan peoples if you don't give a damn about the progression of one of the most observable relics of their legacy, their language family. You place way too much importance on genetics of human populations and we all know that this domain of inquiry is not the same one that was involved in bringing about these theories of homelands of a linguistic group known as PIE. Tying the two together along such rigid, fanatical lines is just so "folk" motivated as I like to call it, it's like your out there to prove something to the world about this aspect of your inner pride and put many people down while you're at it. I know many example of people from all kinds of ethnic backgrounds including my own who do the same, and hell even I've done it, but now I'm not for it because it's not the right attitude if you want to sit down and learn about human evolution through all the scientific means we have available to us today, in fact, it's not the right attitude if you want to learn anything substantial at all.

    If you want to debate about small noses vs big noses, fine, but what does the origin of the Aryan homeland have anything to do with it? And as Armenian has already implied with his messages, big noses and small noses are plentiful all around Eurasia and ethno-linguistic ancestry isn't strong enough of a factor to keep big noses from emerging in any group. To link big noses to Turks is just wrong on so many levels....
    Last edited by jgk3; 09-27-2008, 09:48 PM.

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  • oslonor
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    Are Kurds supposed to "Aryanize Azeri Turks"?

    Ahmadinejad Azeri Pan Turk gang has started a new campaign. They have produced 40 videos under the name of "FireofMedia". It is called "Aryanization of Azeri Turks by Kurds". It claims that Azeri Turks are Kurds. and Kurds are supposed to "ARyanize Azeri Turks". It is not clear what they mean by this kind of nonsense!!!!!

    They have produced a series of videos showing that Firstly: all Persian history was actually Kurd history but was stolen by Persians, secondly Persians are some kind of Turks who want to "Persianize Iran". which is equal to Turkification of Iran!!!!???? By Persians they really mean Azeri Turks themselves.

    Thirdly Lurs and BAkhtiaris are Kurds but they do not know that they are Kurds. And Kurds have "Aryanized Lurs and Bakhtiaris".

    Kurds are supposed to "Aryanize: Azeri Turks by presumably marry them!!!!!

    Are there "Median Girls"? Azeri Turks have invented a new ethnicity called Medians. Medians are supposed to be Azeri Turks and Kurds!!! Then they have made a video comparing Median Girls with "Persians Girls". For "Persians Girls" they use the pictures of Azeri Turks plus a few Americans to confuse people.

    Median Girls : A New TV Show from Azeri Turks!!!

    Median Girls Blog on Google
    http://mediangirls.blogspot.com/

    FireofMedia Home page


    Median Girls
    Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


    Lors and Bakhtiarys are Kurds
    Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


    Azeris are Kurds
    Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.


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  • oslonor
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    Original Aryans Found in Russia





    Aryans originate from this area



    Last edited by oslonor; 09-27-2008, 04:11 PM.

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  • oslonor
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    Originally posted by Armenian View Post
    No it's OK, continue explaining it to the little demons that run around in your little mind.
    It is clear that you do not believe in any Aryan Theory!!!!! Your Aryans are mostly "Big Nose People". I wonder who would make such a "Big Nose Aryan Theory"? It is very clear that the direct beneficiary of your "Big Nose Aryan Theory" are Azeri Turks who actually have big noses.

    According to you with your own pictures, all these people have big noses: The British, The Germans, Ukranians, Certainly Russians as you can not tell apart many Russians from Ukranians. All this is news to me and most people on this forum.

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  • oslonor
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    Originally posted by Armenian View Post
    No it's OK, continue explaining it to the little demons that run around in your little mind.
    I am waiting a response to our other questions. Can you present your "theory of Aryans".

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  • Armenian
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    Originally posted by Assloaner View Post
    I can see that you do not even know what is Aryan. I will explain it to you later.
    No it's OK, continue explaining it to the little demons that run around in your little mind.

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  • oslonor
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    Originally posted by Armenian View Post
    Well, I already showed you ancient "Aryan" profiles with curved "Dinaric" noses. A random look for more modern "Aryans" in Europe gave me the following results...

    Super Aryan, Adolph Eichmann:


    British Prince Charles:



    American president Abraham Lincoln:



    French Charles De Gaulle:



    I suggest you look at pictures of English, French, German and Italian monarchs of the middle ages, most of them have prominant/curved noses. Throughout history most prominant Europeans have had dark hair and big noses, perhaps a testimony of their ancient Aryan roots.

    Prominent noses are a sign of Aryan nobility, little noses are a sign of peasantry.

    Now grow the xxxx up.
    I can see that you do not even know what is Aryan. I will explain it to you later.

    Just a personal opinion. I know Armenian people and their culture. I actually had an Armenian wife a long time before. But I can say that you do not sound Armenian to me. You sound more like a Jooo. Most likely you are liberal jooo.

    Our articles on Iran have been published by the "Persians Journal" and "Persian Mirror" two of the biggest persian publications. Also the Talysh forum has published an article on "The Policy of Turkification of Iran". Our views have been adopted by Kurds, Iraqis, Anatolian Turks and Afghans. Even there are signs that some Armenians agree with us too.
    Last edited by oslonor; 09-26-2008, 02:28 PM.

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  • Armenian
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    Originally posted by Assloaner View Post
    Also post some pictures of "ARyans with Big Noses". I like to see how they look like.
    Well, I already showed you ancient "Aryan" profiles with curved "Dinaric" noses. A random look for more modern "Aryans" in Europe gave me the following results...

    Super Aryan, Adolph Eichmann:



    Great German composer Bach:



    British Prince Charles:



    American president Abraham Lincoln:



    French Charles De Gaulle:



    Russian Peter the Great:




    Spaniard Francisco Franco:



    Austrian Emperor Franz:



    Italian Papa Pius XII:



    I suggest you look at pictures of English, French, German and Italian monarchs of the middle ages, most of them have prominant/curved noses. Throughout history most prominant Europeans have had dark hair and big noses, perhaps a testimony of their ancient Aryan roots.

    Prominent noses are a sign of Aryan nobility, little noses are a sign of peasantry.

    Now grow the xxxx up.

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  • oslonor
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    Parthian Fake Statue Made in Tehran - Tehran's Musuem - Parthian with Mongolian face.

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  • oslonor
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    Mr. "Armenian": Are you talking about this big nose Aryan with a Pan Turkist grey wolf sign?



    Maybe this Iranian/Azeri Aryan Civilization

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