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  • #21
    Re: To Vote or Not to Vote

    Why We Vote

    Whatever problems our politics have, Election Day is a moment when we hope for the future and revel in the solemnity of the democratic process.

    Paul Waldman | November 4, 2008 | web only



    For years, some economists and political scientists have scratched their heads in bewilderment at what they call "the paradox of voting," which states that going to the polls is a profoundly irrational act. If the only reason we do anything is because the material benefits of an action outweigh its costs (an assumption embedded in this theory, among others), there's no reason at all to vote. The odds that the election will be decided by one vote -- and therefore your vote will be decisive -- are vanishingly small. Therefore, whatever benefits you will derive from your favored candidate's policies must be multiplied by that infinitesimal chance that your vote will decide the election, to ascertain the return on the investment of voting. On the other side is the effort, time, and possibly the expense of walking or driving to the polling place, or filling out an absentee ballot. No matter how you calculate it (and many intrepid scholars have tried), the costs clearly outweigh the benefits.

    And yet, people do vote. Therein lies the "paradox," which is what it looks like if you inhabit the soulless world of homo economicus. People reorganize their schedules, wait for hours in line, and otherwise act outside their narrow self-interest to cast votes they know will not affect who wins and loses. So on this day, when over 100 million of us will pull levers, fill in bubbles, or push buttons on a touch screen to register our choice for the next leader of our nation, it's worth taking a few moments to reflect on the meaning of the vote.

    We vote today in ways that are profoundly different than Americans did in previous eras. In the nineteenth century, voting was an act of party loyalty, and a highly public one at that. The parties printed ballots with their candidates written in, and your role as a voter was to take one and put it in the ballot box, often under threat of violence or in exchange for payment, in cash or alcohol. Different parties' ballots were sometimes printed on different colored papers, so there was no mistaking a voter's choice. Progressive Era reforms led to the secret ballot, transforming voting from a public proclamation of loyalty to a private choice. Voting became not something one did in full view of one's community, but in silence and alone.

    Indeed, it became an almost sacramental act. In today's polling places, voices are hushed and movements slow, and we move toward the altar of the booth until we are finally alone with our selections. But though our choices may be private, election day itself is one of the few occasions many of us have to gather with our community. On the others -- sporting events, concerts, watching the fireworks on the Fourth of July -- we come together as spectators, observing the action but not participating in it. And unfortunately, spectatorship characterizes much of our contemporary engagement with the world. But on election day, we gather to act. We look around at our neighbors and know that at that very instant, millions of other Americans are doing the same thing. At that moment we are something extraordinary: we are citizens.

    If recent history is any guide, this election day will be replete with problems, as the incompetence and inadequate preparation of election officials meets the profoundly un-American efforts of some to prevent certain people from voting. That's not to mention the question of whether the votes will be accurately counted. (Election day fun fact: Thomas Edison, the greatest American inventor, secured his first patent in 1869 for the Electrographic Vote Recorder, which he hoped would be used to tally votes in Congress. The august members of the nation's legislature were uninterested in such newfangled whizz-bangery, and Edison vowed never again to waste his time on an invention with so little commercial value.)

    There are plenty of other reasons to forget what is moving and inspiring about election day. Those of us who find politics endlessly fascinating have few illusions about the limitations of leadership or the motivations of political actors. The outcome may or may not be the one we desire, but any president will eventually disappoint those who voted for him or her -- thus has it always been, and thus shall it ever be. There are too many battles to be fought, too many opportunities for what some will view as unnecessary compromise, too many chances to fail. Only the deluded will look back on a president's term as a source of unconditional joy and pride.

    But at the moment of election day, the disappointments are in the future, their arrival seemingly uncertain. The hope, on the other hand, feels as real as the sun that rose this morning. It can stir our souls and move our feet. The hope of what may come invests the small act of voting with the weight of the future and all its possibility.

    So at least for a day, we can remove the heavy cloak of cynicism that covers us for the rest of the year. For a day, we can revel in our own participation, and feel ourselves not subjects but citizens, the very embodiment of the democratic promise. For a day, we can indulge our fondest hopes, we can expect that new leadership will transform our nation, we can ask "Why not?" to what we want our country to be and believe that the question will be answered. There will be plenty of time later for doubt and disgruntlement.

    If you have children, take them to the polls with you. Remind them that for most of human history, people had no say in who would lead them, that violence and fear determined who controlled the institutions of power. Tell them that even in our own country, founded on the most noble of democratic principles, people have had to labor and protest and fight and even die to secure this right for themselves and for others. Tell them that there are many things you can do to exercise your citizenship, but this is one thing you must do. Tell them that election day is when you act not for yourself but for your community and your country. Tell them that although campaigns can be small and mean, election day is when our nation can also be bound by hope.

    Informed analysis of public policy and the politics of power, from a progressive perspective

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    • #22
      Re: To Vote or Not to Vote

      I did vote, what can I say it is an excuse to come to work late.

      I did take my kids. I explained to them we were there to pretend that we are throwing out the bastard in office to replace him with a new bastard.

      The poll workers, all neighbors who know me in our small town, were confused as to why I could not stop laughing.

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      • #23
        Re: To Vote or Not to Vote

        This is the first time I am eligible to vote.

        Everybody I know is voting today, most of them for the first time. This includes my entire family and my girlfriend and her family.

        In a way, I feel left out. Even if I wanted to vote, I can't, I'm not registered. I chose not to register because I truly believe voting does not play a part in our future. Even if I'm wrong, it's what I believe. I don't think anybody has a say in who gets elected. I told my girlfriend today it doesn't matter who she wants; California has already decided on Obama. If you want to get into even further, America has already decided on their next president. Nothing you say or do will change that.

        I also believe most of the voters don't even why they like their candidate. Sure, Obama looks, for the lack of a better word, better, than McCain but most people don't even know anything about their policies. They just go with the consensus; the more popular candidate. I know enough to vote and give reasons why I believe one candidate is better, but in the end, it comes down to the fact that they won't be making any decisions in office.

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        • #24
          Re: To Vote or Not to Vote

          Originally posted by One-Way View Post
          This is the first time I am eligible to vote.

          Everybody I know is voting today, most of them for the first time. This includes my entire family and my girlfriend and her family.

          In a way, I feel left out. Even if I wanted to vote, I can't, I'm not registered. I chose not to register because I truly believe voting does not play a part in our future. Even if I'm wrong, it's what I believe. I don't think anybody has a say in who gets elected. I told my girlfriend today it doesn't matter who she wants; California has already decided on Obama. If you want to get into even further, America has already decided on their next president. Nothing you say or do will change that.

          I also believe most of the voters don't even why they like their candidate. Sure, Obama looks, for the lack of a better word, better, than McCain but most people don't even know anything about their policies. They just go with the consensus; the more popular candidate. I know enough to vote and give reasons why I believe one candidate is better, but in the end, it comes down to the fact that they won't be making any decisions in office.
          Only individuals can stand up against the stupidity of the masses. Never doubt that. Going against the grain is unpopular and often shunned or chastised, but it is often times where truth lies. The majorities and masses are always ruled by emotions and passions, but never their minds. They have been lulled and pampered into a comfortable cognitive dissonance.

          When you have McCain and Obama along with all the other presidential candidates except Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel, as members of the notorious globalist Council on Foreign Relations which wields more influence than anything else, you can bet your dollar they have more say in what goes on than you as a voter.

          As Michael Parenti said in Dirty Truths, City Lights Books, 1996:

          "Those who suffer from conspiracy phobia are fond of saying: "Do you actually think there's a group of people sitting around in a room plotting things?" For some reason that image is assumed to be so patently absurd as to invite only disclaimers. But where else would people of power get together – on park benches or carousels? Indeed, they meet in rooms: corporate boardrooms, Pentagon command rooms, at the Bohemian Grove, in the choice dining rooms at the best restaurants, resorts, hotels, and estates, in the many conference rooms at the White House, the NSA, the CIA, or wherever. And, yes, they consciously plot – though they call it "planning" and "strategizing" – and they do so in great secrecy, often resisting all efforts at public disclosure. No one confabulates and plans more than political and corporate elites and their hired specialists."

          As long as McCain and Obama want to maintain the Federal Reserve which causes the ruin of the economy and the continued devaluation of the dollar, leading to boom-bust cycles, they are the same.

          As long as they want to maintain an unconstitutional income tax, they are the same.

          As long as they want to keep on the constant federal spending on all sorts of worthless imperial programs both at home and abroad, when this country is bankrupt, they are the same.

          As long as they want to increase more regulations and interventions into the market place and further cause distortions in the market via socialistic policies, they are the same.

          As long as they want to maintain the FDA-medical-pharmaceutical-industrial complex, they are the same.

          As long as they want to expand the government's socialistic health care policies and programs, along with pharmaceutical-industrial complex, they are the same.

          As long as they want to continue the war on drugs, they are the same.

          As long as they want to maintain U.S. troops in Iraq and/or Afghanistan, they are the same.

          As long as they want to maintain U.S. troops around the world in the various bases of the imperial outposts, they are the same.

          As long as they perpetuate the rest of the military-industrial complex, including American troops around the world, and endless foreign aid to worthless countries, they are the same.

          As long as they continue the bogus war on terror, they are the same.

          As long as they continue to enable post-911 agencies' powers and programs and assaults on civil liberties, they are the same.

          As long as they continue the worthless and unconstitutional program like social security, they are the same.

          As long as they continue dismantling property rights under the guise and mantra of "climate change" (changed from "global warming"), they are the same.
          Achkerov kute.

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          • #25
            Re: To Vote or Not to Vote

            Presidential politics in the U.S. is about who raises more money and runs a better campaign. It has nothing to do with policy. Ultimately the two candidates are different sides of the same coin.

            Having said that I personally view it as a form of entertainment, much like a sporting event. I found this last election cycle very entertaining, but the championship is today and the show is over tomorrow.

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            • #26
              Re: To Vote or Not to Vote

              Americans are so simple-minded and easy to sway like emotional loose cannons, waiting on that one great promise to be led to the golden land of easy chairs. The word CHANGE, despite the objective dictionary meaning, is the pet phrase that's repeated over and over. Like good little automatons they parade behind their man chanting "change," and apply God-like greatness to their new Lord and Master. Lead me Dear Great One. Throw me some bread, put on a circus or two, and I shall be your true-blue worshiper.
              Achkerov kute.

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              • #27
                Re: To Vote or Not to Vote

                Originally posted by gmd View Post
                Presidential politics in the U.S. is about who raises more money and runs a better campaign. It has nothing to do with policy. Ultimately the two candidates are different sides of the same coin.
                It is understandable that you think this way, enker, but there is a stark difference this time: one is a Genocide denier and the other is commited to Genocide recognition and supporting Armenia financially. It is a black and white choice. I don't get why so many Armenians (and disgustingly, so many young Armenians) voted for McCain. A vote for McCain was a vote against Armenia and Armenians.

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                • #28
                  Re: To Vote or Not to Vote

                  I hope I am proven wrong and obama does keep his promises, but until then, it is not white and black for me. They are the same xxxx as Mouse pointed out above.
                  For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
                  to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



                  http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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                  • #29
                    Re: To Vote or Not to Vote

                    Originally posted by yerazhishda View Post
                    It is understandable that you think this way, enker, but there is a stark difference this time: one is a Genocide denier and the other is commited to Genocide recognition and supporting Armenia financially. It is a black and white choice. I don't get why so many Armenians (and disgustingly, so many young Armenians) voted for McCain. A vote for McCain was a vote against Armenia and Armenians.
                    I agree.

                    I know someone personally that went to Washington, DC to lobby for HR106 and then she turns around and votes for McCain. Strange.

                    Also, I am aware that there is no guarantee that Obama will fulfill his promises, but you cannot argue that he (and Biden) have a very strong track record on Armenian issues.

                    If Obama does not pursue a Genocide resolution within his first term, then it will probably never happen. At that point I would say that the US is totally corrupted and therefore Armenians should forget about putting forth efforts for a Genocide resolution in this country. Moreover, at that point, efforts would have to be shifted totally to building the ROA.

                    ...but for now, I think Armenian-Americans have a great shot at with Obama/Biden. There is reason to be optimistic.

                    Btw, if you cannot tell already, I'm a one-issue voter
                    Last edited by crusader1492; 11-04-2008, 08:42 PM.

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                    • #30
                      Re: To Vote or Not to Vote

                      From the ANCA:

                      It's 11:04pm - and it's clear now that Obama has won.

                      It was a hard-fought battle between two good men - but two men with very different views on Armenian issues.

                      I'm very proud of our role in today's results. We endorsed Obama in January when he was fighting an uphill battle for his party's nomination and worked for him right through tonight. We simply couldn't afford another 4 years of the same, hostile anti-Armenian policies.

                      No matter whom you supported, with the election over, we all want to see truth and justice prevail over Turkey's threats and blackmail.

                      We're almost there: The new President-elect supported Armenian issues in the Senate, has pledged if elected to recognize the Armenian Genocide, and picked a running mate with a 35-year pro-Armenian track record.

                      We're close to the day when an American President finally ends nearly a century of U.S. complicity in Turkey's denials.

                      Starting tomorrow, the full force of the Turkish government will come down like a ton of bricks on Washington.

                      Turkish leaders, their lobbyists, and the "usual suspects" in Washington bureaucracies are already out there, using every trick in the book to deliver for Turkey through deceit what they could not win for Ankara at the ballot box.

                      It's wrong. And I know you won't tolerate it.

                      That's why I am urgently asking for your financial support. Please, send a secure online donation now so we can fight back starting tomorrow morning against this tidal wave of Turkish attacks.

                      Every dollar you send will help us break Turkey's ruthless campaign to delay, derail, and defeat U.S. recognition of the Armenian Genocide.

                      Any donation, $10, $50, $100 or more will make a true difference. Our Cause needs you now more than ever.

                      Sincerely,

                      Ken Hachikian


                      source: anca.org

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