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Obama: An even more imperialistic shift in American Foreign Policy?

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  • #11
    Re: Obama: An even more imperialistic shift in American Foreign Policy?

    Originally posted by yerazhishda View Post
    Nice article, it presented a lot of good evidence about Barack Obama that I don't think a lot of people (including myself) are aware of. Now that we are done exposing Obama's shortcomings, what would be the alternative? Bush-clone McCain?
    There are no alternatives, newbie. You seriously think this is about alternatives? LOL.
    Achkerov kute.

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    • #12
      Re: Obama: An even more imperialistic shift in American Foreign Policy?

      good one LOL

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      • #13
        Re: Obama: An even more imperialistic shift in American Foreign Policy?

        Originally posted by Anonymouse View Post
        Wow, I never thought we would get one of these Obama minions who actually think voting means something, to visit this thread!

        Considering all of these things, how do you feel about "casting" your "vote" for Masta' Obama?
        I feel super .

        Where did I say that i thought voting means something btw? What I said was that I understand the policemen's actions. And my voting for Obama had nothing to do with my belief in his experience or that he would change my life. If you're going on experience half of your presidents should have never become one. I voted for him b/c 4 years ago, while watching his speech at the democratic convention, I said that I would vote for him. Also Obama's lacking of religious fervor, his connections to terrorists, his ability to lie well, and his overall un-Americaness, made me like him.

        And come on, seriously, McCain would not have been any better, probably worse. Also Obama's black. When was a chance like this ever going to come up again? And don't tell me that's racist, b/c if there were an Armenian American running, you know that ever armenian in America that could vote would vote for him/her.
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        Also back to the Rahm Emanuel pick, he picked him b/c he has credentials, and to also shut up all the people who were/are saying he's friends with Palestinian radicals and is pro Palestinian.

        “Nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people.” Barack Obama
        Last edited by ara87; 11-09-2008, 10:19 PM.

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        • #14
          Re: Obama: An even more imperialistic shift in American Foreign Policy?

          Keeping the eye on the ball, not Emanuel

          The selection of Rahm Emanuel as chief of staff--the first major appointment by President-elect Barack Obama--did not fare well with many Armenian-Americans who supported the Illinois Senator's bid for presidency. While the Armenian-Americans who overwhelmingly voted for Obama showed signs of unease, those who supported the McCain-Palin ticket were quick to exclaim, I told you so!

          The concerns of Armenian-Americans are understandable. Beginning with his days in the Clinton Administration through his years in Congress, Emanuel's support has been mixed. It appears--if we are to take Robert Novak's word for it--Emanuel opposed Clinton Administration affirmation of the Armenian Genocide. And yet, in his first term in Congress in 2003, he cosponsored Armenian Genocide legislation (H.Res.193) and urged President Bush in 2003, 2004 and 2005 to properly characterize the events from 1915-1923 as genocide.

          Back then, Emanuel wasn't afraid to question U.S. assistance to Turkey. In fact, in February 2003, when Congress was considering a $24 billion aid package to Turkey in return for allowing U.S. troops to open up a northern front to battle Iraqi insurgents, Emanuel was positively poetic in listing the myriad of domestic uses for those funds--from “no child left behind programs,” to college tuition assistance. Turkey eventually blocked U.S. troops from setting up the northern front.

          Since 2006, it appears Emanuel has gone back to his Clinton-Administration days, counseling Speaker Pelosi not to place the Armenian Genocide resolution on the House agenda--advice that Pelosi and the House leadership did not heed.

          So, again, that Armenian-Americans are concerned is understandable. What is not understandable, however, is the leap that many Armenian-Americans are making--concluding that the appointment of Emanuel is proof that Obama is somehow on the road to reneging on his election pledge even before taking his oath of office.

          Such thinking comes off to be a bit naive. If the criteria for appointing a presidential chief of staff were for him to agree with the President on every single issue, no one would ever serve in that post. The President will have points of agreement and disagreement with his chief of staff--and all members of his Administration, for that matter--with the final word being that of the President, himself. Not to mention the fact that it is foolhardy to think that the President's choice of a chief of staff would be decided on a single human rights issue--however just.

          Armenian-American critics of the Emanuel pick ought to keep in mind the impressive record of President-elect Obama and--perhaps even more importantly--that of vice President-elect Biden, when it comes to issues of concern to Armenian-Americans. Although their record does not guarantee their support of Genocide recognition now that they have assumed the highest office of the country, it should, at least, make one think twice before jumping to conclusions.

          Concentrating on the Emanuel pick is a distraction. Regardless of who the chief of staff is, immense pressure is going to be exerted on Obama--by some Washington elites, the Turkish state and U.S.-based lobby groups working openly or silently for the Turkish government--to dissuade him from recognizing the Armenian Genocide.

          Given that reality, Armenian-Americans have two clear choices. To sit on their hands, thinking that they already did their part by voting for Obama and now it is his turn to deliver, or to struggle more fiercely than ever for truth and justice, knowing well that they have in the highest office of their country, a President who understands their struggle for truth and justice--certainly more than his predecessors.

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          • #15
            Re: Obama: An even more imperialistic shift in American Foreign Policy?

            Originally posted by ara87 View Post
            I feel super .

            Where did I say that i thought voting means something btw? What I said was that I understand the policemen's actions. And my voting for Obama had nothing to do with my belief in his experience or that he would change my life. If you're going on experience half of your presidents should have never become one. I voted for him b/c 4 years ago, while watching his speech at the democratic convention, I said that I would vote for him. Also Obama's lacking of religious fervor, his connections to terrorists, his ability to lie well, and his overall un-Americaness, made me like him.

            And come on, seriously, McCain would not have been any better, probably worse. Also Obama's black. When was a chance like this ever going to come up again? And don't tell me that's racist, b/c if there were an Armenian American running, you know that ever armenian in America that could vote would vote for him/her.
            ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
            Also back to the Rahm Emanuel pick, he picked him b/c he has credentials, and to also shut up all the people who were/are saying he's friends with Palestinian radicals and is pro Palestinian.

            “Nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people.” Barack Obama
            When did I express support over McCain? LOL. It's like picking between testicle cancer and pancreatic cancer. I still think (my opinion) that you're a left-wing idealist, and that's based on your posts and opinions.
            Achkerov kute.

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            • #16
              Re: Obama: An even more imperialistic shift in American Foreign Policy?

              I was waiting for when this was going to rear it's ugly head regarding the ascension of The One to the throne of the Imperial office.

              Americans who were not moved by what happened the other night were in some way un-American.
              Achkerov kute.

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              • #17
                Re: Obama: An even more imperialistic shift in American Foreign Policy?

                Originally posted by Anonymouse View Post
                I still think (my opinion) that you're a left-wing idealist, and that's based on your posts and opinions.
                You're mostly right. Though I actually side with the conservatives on abortion. Also I think that unless drugs such as marijuana are going to be legalized for recreational use, that alcohol should also be banned. I'm in favor of both being legal however, given the history of prohibition in this country. I'd also have some pretty radical education reforms somewhere in there too.
                Last edited by ara87; 11-09-2008, 11:39 PM.

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                • #18
                  Re: Obama: An even more imperialistic shift in American Foreign Policy?

                  Originally posted by Anonymouse View Post
                  I was waiting for when this was going to rear it's ugly head regarding the ascension of The One to the throne of the Imperial office.

                  http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.ht...7017263&k=5825


                  In the name of Obama
                  and of Biden
                  and of the holy Rahm Emanuel

                  Amen.

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                  • #19
                    Re: Obama: An even more imperialistic shift in American Foreign Policy?

                    Global Research is a media group of writers, journalists and activists and based in Montreal, Canada, and a registered non profit organization.
                    For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
                    to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



                    http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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                    • #20
                      Re: Obama: An even more imperialistic shift in American Foreign Policy?

                      His first major speech on foreign policy was delivered on April 23, 2007 to the Chicago Council on Global Affairs. He identified the problems that he believes the current foreign policy has caused, and the five ways the United States can lead again, focused on "common security", "common humanity", and remaining "a beacon of freedom and justice for the world":[90]

                      * "Bringing a responsible end" to the war in Iraq and refocusing on the broader region.
                      * "Building the first truly 21st century military and showing wisdom in how we deploy it."
                      * "Marshalling a global effort" to secure, destroy, and stop the spread of weapons of mass destruction.
                      * "Rebuild and construct the alliances and partnerships necessary to meet common challenges and confront common threats," including global warming.
                      * "Invest in our common humanity" through foreign aid and supporting the "pillars of a sustainable democracy – a strong legislature, an independent judiciary, the rule of law, a vibrant civil society, a free press, and an honest police force."

                      During the speech Obama called for an expansion of the United States Armed Forces "by adding 65,000 soldiers to the Army and 27,000 Marines", an idea previously introduced by Secretary of Defense Robert Gates.



                      In a Washington, DC speech entitled "A New Strategy for a New World"[91] delivered July 15, 2008, Obama stated five main foreign policy goals:

                      * ending the war in Iraq responsibly;
                      * finishing the fight against al Qaeda and the Taliban;
                      * securing all nuclear weapons and materials from terrorists and rogue states;
                      * achieving true energy security; and,
                      * rebuilding our alliances to meet the challenges of the 21st century.

                      Has any one seen this? Will we see more war from the US?

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