Question From "Traditional man and country"

[VartanK]

Re: Question to Anonymouse - From "Traditional man and country"

No, I corrected a spelling mistake and added another sentence....

Going from a universal statement to a specific one limited to planet earth, is called modifying and moderating. But even if limited to the planet earth, it is a theory

[KanadaHye]

Re: Question to Anonymouse - From "Traditional man and country"

By the way, it's NOT a fact even on planet earth, whether you like it or not your statement is a theory

Until it CAN be proven false and denied, it's a fact.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Question to Anonymouse - From "Traditional man and country"

I see that you have modified your original statement and have moderated your views.
My statment was was about life and not about a particular form of life. Different forms of life would/could exist in different energetic conditions.

No, I corrected a spelling mistake and added another sentence....

[VartanK]

Re: Question to Anonymouse - From "Traditional man and country"

As far as the planet WE live on, it's a FACT. If not the sun, there has to be another form of energy.
Try growing a plant without light or water... doesn't work too well.

I see that you have modified your original statement and have moderated your views.
My statment was was about life and not about a particular form of life. Different forms of life would/could exist in different energetic conditions.

By the way, it's NOT a fact even on planet earth, whether you like it or not your statement is a theory because life on our planet is may be more diverse than you'd think. I've already gave an example.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Question to Anonymouse - From "Traditional man and country"

The point is that photosyntheis may happen without sunlight and under different conditions life happens differently, so for my purposes it does not matter "whether the bacteria are actually indigenous to the vents" or not.

For instance, check this http://www.universetoday.com/2009/04...nd-cool-stars/


Your statement that life wouldn't exist without the sun is also a theory

As far as the planet WE live on, it's a FACT. If not the sun, there has to be another form of energy. Try growing a plant without light or water... doesn't work too well.

[VartanK]

Re: Question to Anonymouse - From "Traditional man and country"

"If the finding is confirmed, the organisms would be the first known to use a light source other than the sun, suggesting the possibility of life in other sunless environments, such as Jupiter's moon Europa."

"Their announcement comes with some strong caveats, however. The authors can't say for sure whether the bacteria are actually indigenous to the vents. There's a chance, they note, that the organisms could have drifted into the collection area from elsewhere, where sunlight could have supported them."

The point is that photosyntheis may happen without sunlight and under different conditions life happens differently, so for my purposes it does not matter "whether the bacteria are actually indigenous to the vents" or not.

For instance, check this http://www.universetoday.com/2009/04...nd-cool-stars/

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Yeah... so much for that theory.

Your statement that life wouldn't exist without the sun is also a theory

[KanadaHye]

Re: Question to Anonymouse - From "Traditional man and country"

First of all, yes it would exist. Start with this http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/83/i26/8326notw3.html and if you want to know more then google.

Second of all, it does not answer my question.

"If the finding is confirmed, the organisms would be the first known to use a light source other than the sun, suggesting the possibility of life in other sunless environments, such as Jupiter's moon Europa."

"Their announcement comes with some strong caveats, however. The authors can't say for sure whether the bacteria are actually indigenous to the vents. There's a chance, they note, that the organisms could have drifted into the collection area from elsewhere, where sunlight could have supported them."

Yeah... so much for that theory.

[VartanK]

Re: Question to Anonymouse - From "Traditional man and country"

Life wouldn't exist without the sun.

First of all, yes it would exist. Start with this http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/83/i26/8326notw3.html and if you want to know more then google.

Second of all, it does not answer my question.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Question to Anonymouse - From "Traditional man and country"

Unless you show that the principles of Molecular Biology are totally wrong than there will be evolution as long as there is life. Evolution is more than a concept. Evolution is more likely to happen than the sun rising again.

Life wouldn't exist without the sun.

[VartanK]

The goal of this thread is not to discuss evolution, I just had a simple question but Anonymouse thought that it was "off-topic" based on some obscure "unwritten, unconsciuous rule" and was asked to create a new thread.
It seems weird to start a new thread just to ask a question, but....

This presumes that a concept called evolution is actually real and has in fact occurred, occurs and will continue to occur.

Unless you show that the principles of Molecular Biology are totally wrong than there will be evolution as long as there is life. Evolution is more than a concept. Evolution is more likely to happen than the sun rising again.

Would you care to tell us why the principles of Molecular Biology are wrong?