Turkish Prime Minister calls Xinjiang killings "genocide"

[londontsi]

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Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's referring to the recent incidents in Xinjiang as “genocide”

The analogy to this is :- A whxre calling everybody a whoxe so she looks whiter than white.
Sorry cannot be more gracious.

[Alexandros]

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CHINA SHOULD RETALIATE AGAINST TURKEY

By Recognizing the Armenian Genocide

By Harut Sassounian, Publisher, The California Courier

AZG Armenian Daily #137, 23/07/2009

The Prime Minister of Turkey Rejeb Erdogan seems to have fallen into the bad habit of periodically accusing various countries of committing genocide. By doing so, the Turkish leader is inadvertently creating new opportunities for the international media to raise the issue of the Armenian Genocide.

In January of this year, the Turkish Prime Minister accused Israel of committing genocide during its Gaza offensive. Several Israeli leaders and members of the media reacted by pointing out that Turkish officials should be the last ones to talk of genocide given their country’s culpability in the Armenian Genocide. Some members of the Israeli government were so offended that they threatened to retaliate by acknowledging the Armenian Genocide.

Earlier this month, Prime Minister Erdogan returned to his favorite topic, this time accusing China of committing genocide. He was furious that several dozen Turkic-speaking Muslim Uighurs were killed in the Xinjiang province, during clashes with the Han Chinese who suffered many more casualties.

According to a Reuters report, Erdogan stated on July 10: "The incidents in China are, simply put, a genocide. There’s no point in interpreting this otherwise." Erdogan’s unwise words elicited immediate reaction from the international media which pointed out his foolishness in accusing others of genocide, given his country’s poor record on minority rights and its responsibility for the Armenian Genocide.

The Economist magazine reported that "in the past few days internet forums in China have been clamoring their support for Kurdish separatists," a subject that was practically unheard of in China before Erdogan’s accusation of genocide! The magazine also stated that Turkey is now "finding itself in the line of fire."

The Associated Press, in covering Erdogan’s characterization of the clashes in China as genocide, devoted an entire paragraph to the Armenian Genocide: "Turkey itself is extremely sensitive to the use of the term ‘genocide.’ Armenia says 1.5 million Armenians were slain by Ottoman Turks around the time of World War I in what Armenians and several other nations recognize as the first genocide of the 20th century…."

Reuters also covered Erdogan’s accusation of genocide against China, indicating that "the genocide label is particularly sensitive in Turkey, which strongly refutes Armenian claims that the killing of Armenians by Ottoman Turks during World War One constituted genocide."

Sylvia Hui, columnist of Hong Kong’s Asia Sentinel, ridiculed Erdogan for his flippant use of the term genocide. She wrote: "What’s interesting about this accusation is not only the premature and almost casual way it has been pronounced (especially given how sensitive Turkey is to the word with regard to Armenian accusations that Ottoman Turks committed the first genocide of the 20th century), but also how it contradicts other things Erdogan reportedly said on the same occasion…. In any case, the Turkish leader comes across as thoroughly hypocritical or too eager to please Uighurs at home to have thought it through before making such a strong remark."

Liberal Turkish newspaper "Radikal" joined the fray by quoting from the editorial of the Boston-based "Armenian Weekly" on Erdogan’s ludicrous condemnation of China: "People who live in glass houses should not throw stones." The editorial took Erdogan to task for having "the audacity to compare the killing of a few dozen Uighurs to genocide while it continues to spend millions to deny the killing of a million and a half Armenians." "Radikal" concluded by quoting the Weekly’s sarcastic conclusion: "After all, even by the official Turkish account, there were more than 150 people who were killed in 1915."

The Chinese state press, not surprisingly, was even more critical of Erdogan. "The People’s Daily" wrote on July 14: "Many Chinese citizens feel insulted by Turkish actions and suggest that China should change its attitude towards the Kurdistan Workers Party and support their appeal for independence, so as to make Turkey pay a heavy political price…. Turkey was once accused of committed genocide in Armenia by the West and its crackdown on Kurdistan Workers’ Party has also stirred up numerous controversies." "The People’s Daily" also published several letters critical of Turkey, one of which stated: "The Kurdish massacres in Turkey were a kind of genocide and Nazism. Linking China to genocide is like a thief shouting ‘stop thief.’"

Another Chinese newspaper, "The China Daily," in an editorial titled, "Don’t Twist Facts," urged Erdogan to "take back his remarks…which constitute interference in China’s internal affairs."

The most effective measure China can take in response to Erdogan’s hysterical accusations is to have the Chinese Parliament adopt a resolution recognizing the Armenian Genocide.

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[egeli]

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What is this obsession with *some* Turks in gloryifing ethnic roots that go back more than a 1000 years?

Turks are successors to the Ottomans, who drew much of their early strength and success from Islamic converts. The successors to the Ottomans were the Seljuk Turks, who were even heavily mixed in with Persians. Thats over a 1000 years of assimilation and intermarriage with "foreign" ethnicities, is it even worth tracing Turkish heritage all the way back to the Uyghurs?

With this logic, Turks might as well start glorying their African roots, because in the end, thats where we all orginated.

Ethnic nationalism is the BELIEF of common ethnicity and history. There is nothing factual about it. Ethnic nationalism is a disgusting and inherently racist ideology that is responsible for some of the most barbaric acts in human history.

A Turk is a citizen of Turkey, it should have nothing to do with ethnicity or religion. Foolish are Turks, they don't understand that if they only accept all their citizens as their own, Turkey would truly become a civilized, modern, and powerful nation.

Example: If Turkey were to give Kurds their right for identifying themselves as ethnic Kurds, to speak Kurdish as an unofficial but state condoned language, (much like Spanish in the US), and to even identify South-Eastern Anatolia as Kurdistan, the PKK WOULD NO LONGER EXIST. No Kurd would revolt from a country that grants them civil rights and economic prosperity.

[Sako]

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There are many reasons why your gov. isn't taking many steps we talk about in these threads. One thing I don't doubt is that the Turkish gov. isn't stupid. They are retarded, uncivil, very childish in many respects, etc. ... but they aren't stupid! You can expect anything from them.

[Anoush]

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CHINA SHOULD RETALIATE AGAINST TURKEY

By Recognizing the Armenian Genocide

By Harut Sassounian, Publisher, The California Courier

AZG Armenian Daily #137, 23/07/2009

In January of this year, the Turkish Prime Minister accused Israel of committing genocide during its Gaza offensive. Several Israeli leaders and members of the media reacted by pointing out that Turkish officials should be the last ones to talk of genocide given their country’s culpability in the Armenian Genocide. Some members of the Israeli government were so offended that they threatened to retaliate by acknowledging the Armenian Genocide.

Well what kept them?

Earlier this month, Prime Minister Erdogan returned to his favorite topic, this time accusing China of committing genocide. He was furious that several dozen Turkic-speaking Muslim Uighurs were killed in the Xinjiang province, during clashes with the Han Chinese who suffered many more casualties.

According to a Reuters report, Erdogan stated on July 10: "The incidents in China are, simply put, a genocide. There’s no point in interpreting this otherwise." Erdogan’s unwise words elicited immediate reaction from the international media which pointed out his foolishness in accusing others of genocide, given his country’s poor record on minority rights and its responsibility for the Armenian Genocide.

The Economist magazine reported that "in the past few days internet forums in China have been clamoring their support for Kurdish separatists," a subject that was practically unheard of in China before Erdogan’s accusation of genocide! The magazine also stated that Turkey is now "finding itself in the line of fire."

The Associated Press, in covering Erdogan’s characterization of the clashes in China as genocide, devoted an entire paragraph to the Armenian Genocide: "Turkey itself is extremely sensitive to the use of the term ‘genocide.’ Armenia says 1.5 million Armenians were slain by Ottoman Turks around the time of World War I in what Armenians and several other nations recognize as the first genocide of the 20th century…."

Reuters also covered Erdogan’s accusation of genocide against China, indicating that "the genocide label is particularly sensitive in Turkey, which strongly refutes Armenian claims that the killing of Armenians by Ottoman Turks during World War One constituted genocide."

Sylvia Hui, columnist of Hong Kong’s Asia Sentinel, ridiculed Erdogan for his flippant use of the term genocide. She wrote: "What’s interesting about this accusation is not only the premature and almost casual way it has been pronounced (especially given how sensitive Turkey is to the word with regard to Armenian accusations that Ottoman Turks committed the first genocide of the 20th century), but also how it contradicts other things Erdogan reportedly said on the same occasion…. In any case, the Turkish leader comes across as thoroughly hypocritical or too eager to please Uighurs at home to have thought it through before making such a strong remark."

Liberal Turkish newspaper "Radikal" joined the fray by quoting from the editorial of the Boston-based "Armenian Weekly" on Erdogan’s ludicrous condemnation of China: "People who live in glass houses should not throw stones." The editorial took Erdogan to task for having "the audacity to compare the killing of a few dozen Uighurs to genocide while it continues to spend millions to deny the killing of a million and a half Armenians." "Radikal" concluded by quoting the Weekly’s sarcastic conclusion: "After all, even by the official Turkish account, there were more than 150 people who were killed in 1915."

The Chinese state press, not surprisingly, was even more critical of Erdogan. "The People’s Daily" wrote on July 14: "Many Chinese citizens feel insulted by Turkish actions and suggest that China should change its attitude towards the Kurdistan Workers Party and support their appeal for independence, so as to make Turkey pay a heavy political price…. Turkey was once accused of committed genocide in Armenia by the West and its crackdown on Kurdistan Workers’ Party has also stirred up numerous controversies." "The People’s Daily" also published several letters critical of Turkey, one of which stated: "The Kurdish massacres in Turkey were a kind of genocide and Nazism. Linking China to genocide is like a thief shouting ‘stop thief.’"

Another Chinese newspaper, "The China Daily," in an editorial titled, "Don’t Twist Facts," urged Erdogan to "take back his remarks…which constitute interference in China’s internal affairs."

The most effective measure China can take in response to Erdogan’s hysterical accusations is to have the Chinese Parliament adopt a resolution recognizing the Armenian Genocide.

Link

YES That's right! GO AHEAD CHINA!!!!

[Anoush]

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I sure hope that Erdogun really angers the Chinese and turn the Chinese against them.

[Eddo211]

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I sure hope that Erdogun really angers the Chinese and turn the Chinese against them.

China has nothing to worry about when it comes to the pan-Turkism……………Turks will never get passed the Armenian.

BTW, Anoush jan, you have the best Avatars.





Well said egelis.

Ethnic nationalism……….I like the term. It seems to describe it better than racial extremism.

[retro]

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The Turkish bully boy it seems is not so brazen in his dealings with the bigger kids on the block and the Turks are terrified of both the Chinese and Russians.

Nevertheless, the ethnic persecution of Turkic Uighurs by the Han Chinese is not something that should be lauded.

[Pedro Xaramillo]

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The Turkish bully boy it seems is not so brazen in his dealings with the bigger kids on the block and the Turks are terrified of both the Chinese and Russians.

Nevertheless, the ethnic persecution of Turkic Uighurs by the Han Chinese is not something that should be lauded.

THe Turks killed more in that thing in Xinjiang than were killed themselves, most people who died are not Turks, this is just Pan Turkism and I have no respect for that ideology.

I hope though that China recognises the Genocide

[Eddo211]

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I hope though that China recognises the Genocide

If I was China I would retaliate against Turkey (for making such stupid statements) by recognizing the AG.....that will teach them