Turkish Prime Minister calls Xinjiang killings "genocide"

[hipeter924]

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Turkey is anti-everything other then Turkey, Islam, Turks, and their pathetic way of thinking along with their Turkish "pride" and "honor".

Oh well. Anyway I love China so Turkey can shove its 'genocide' up its retarded arse.

PS: China is consistent. It treats every protest the same, I can't see how it could be called 'discriminatory' when in Tienanmen square they killed Chinese students that lived in their own capital.

[Sako]

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Oh well. Anyway I love China so Turkey can shove its 'genocide' up its retarded arse.

Amen to that, brother

[Merv]

Turkish hypocrisy and ridiculousness

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8145451.stm

Turkey attacks China 'genocide'
Turkey's prime minister has described ethnic violence in China's Xinjiang region as "a kind of genocide".

"There is no other way of commenting on this event," Recep Tayyip Erdogan said.

He spoke after a night-time curfew was reimposed in Xinjiang's capital, Urumqi, where Muslim Uighurs and Han Chinese clashed last Sunday.

The death toll from the violence there has now risen from 156 to 184, China's state-run Xinhua news agency reports. More than 1,000 people were injured.

Turkey, a predominantly Muslim country, shares linguistic and religious links with the Uighurs in China's western-most region.

Quentin Sommerville, BBC News, Urumqi After Friday's prayers, a small group of Uighur Muslims marched along an Urumqi street demanding the release of men detained for their alleged role in last Sunday's riot.
A large number of riot police surrounded the group, they punched and kicked the protestors - one officer used his baton to beat one of the Uighurs. A number of foreign journalists had their equipment seized, some have been detained.

Earlier the group said they feared for their safety. There's no word from the authorities as to what happened to them.

"The event taking place in China is a kind of genocide," Mr Erdogan told reporters in Turkey's capital, Ankara.

"There are atrocities there, hundreds of people have been killed and 1,000 hurt. We have difficulty understanding how China's leadership can remain a spectator in the face of these events."

The Turkish premier also urged Beijing to "address the question of human rights and do what is necessary to prosecute the guilty".

Mr Erdogan's comments came a day after Turkish Trade and Industry Minister Nihat Ergun urged Turks to boycott Chinese goods.

Beijing has so far not publicly commented on Mr Erdogan's criticism.

But it said that of the 184 people who died, 137 were Han Chinese.

Uighurs defiant

Earlier on Friday, the Chinese authorities reimposed a night-time curfew in Urumqi.

The curfew had been suspended for two days after officials said they had the city under control.

Mosques in the city were ordered to remain closed on Friday and notices were posted instructing people to stay at home to worship.

XINJIANG: ETHNIC UNREST
Main ethnic division: 45% Uighur, 40% Han Chinese
26 June: Mass factory brawl after dispute between Han Chinese and Uighurs in Guangdong, southern China, leaves two Uighurs dead
5 July: Uighur protest in Urumqi over the dispute turns violent, leaving 156 dead - most of them thought to be Han - and more than 1,000 hurt
7 July: Uighur women protest at arrests of menfolk. Han Chinese make armed counter-march
8 July: President Hu Jintao returns from G8 summit to tackle crisis

But at least two opened after crowds of Uighurs gathered outside and demanded to be allowed in to pray on the holiest day of the week in Islam.

"We decided to open the mosque because so many people had gathered. We did not want an incident," a policeman outside the White Mosque in a Uighur neighbourhood told the AP news agency.

After the prayers, riot police punched and kicked a small group of Uighurs protesters, who demanded the release of men detained after last Sunday's violence, the BBC's Quentin Sommerville says.

Meanwhile, the city's main bus station was reported to be crowded with people trying to escape the unrest.

Extra bus services had been laid on and touts were charging up to five times the normal face price for tickets, AFP news agency said.

"It is just too risky to stay here. We are scared of the violence," a 23-year-old construction worker from central China said.

The violence began on Sunday when a Uighur rally to protest against a deadly brawl between Uighurs and Han Chinese several weeks ago in a toy factory in southern Guangdong province turned violent.

Tensions have been growing in Xinjiang for many years, as Han migrants have poured into the region, where the Uighur minority is concentrated.

Many Uighurs feel economic growth has bypassed them and complain of discrimination and diminished opportunities.


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Published: 2009/07/10 19:23:10 GMT

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So, according to Turkey, when 184 people, MOSTLY HAN CHINESE, are murdered in Xinjiang, it is genocide against Turks, but over a million Armenians murdered is not?

Side note: Turks are silly if they think they will ever bore through Russian, Chinese, and Iranian opposition to a pan-Turkic union (headed by Turkey, of course), stretching to Xinjiang. It's never going to happen.

[Yakamoz]

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Any more info on this?

There is no official boycott

[UrMistake]

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Guys stay focused even if they have dreams of pan-turkish they are not so ignorant,he said Genocide only to draw some attention in the region after all its his blood what else he could do.

[Federate]

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Pan-Turkism that spreads until Western China is an impossibility. China is very nationalistic and will not tolerate separatism. Any attempt will be crushed within a matter of days. Besides, the Uighurs as a people are finished. The Han Chinese that have moved to Xinjiang almost match the number of Uighurs who live there. Once China successfully makes them a minority in their own native province, any dim hopes they had will die out.

As for Erdogan's comments, anything that harms Turkish relations with other nations is a gain for Armenia. I doubt this will cause that much damage to Chinese-Turkish relations though as everyone in the world knows how much they are dependent on the rising dragon and will not be foolish enough to anger it.

[Alexandros]

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Rebiya Kadeer


Kadeer praises Erdoğan for ‘genocide' remarks

13 July 2009, Monday

TODAY'S ZAMAN WITH WIRES ANKARA

Rebiya Kadeer, head of the World Uighur Congress, has expressed her gratitude for Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's referring to the recent incidents in Xinjiang as “genocide” as well as for Turkish people's support for Uighurs in Xinjiang.

“I'm grateful for Turkish people's support for Uighur Turks in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region and for Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's calling the incidents as ‘genocide.' I'm more hopeful for the future of Uighur people thanks to the support of Turkey,” Kadeer was quoted as saying on Sunday in an interview with the Anatolia news agency.

Kadeer, who currently lives in the United States, is accused by the Chinese government of orchestrating the protests in Xinjiang, a charge she has denied. Rioting between Muslim Uighurs and Han Chinese in Xinjiang has killed 184 people and wounded more than 1,000 in the worst ethnic violence in China in decades. Both Uighurs and the Han have claimed a higher death toll from the strife.

On Friday, Erdoğan said what happened in China's northwest province of Xinjiang was “a sort of genocide” and called on Chinese authorities to intervene to prevent more deaths. “We're having trouble understanding how the Chinese government would remain a bystander to this. We want the Chinese administration, with which our bilateral ties are continuously improving, to show sensitivity,” he said. Muslim Turkey shares linguistic and religious links with Uighurs, and Turkish nationalists see Xinjiang as the easternmost frontier of Turkic ethnicity. Thousands of Uighur immigrants live in Turkey.

Turkey has sought to boost ties with China, the world's third-biggest economy. President Abdullah Gül last month became the first Turkish president to visit China in 15 years, signing $1.5 billion worth of trade deals.

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[TomServo]

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Matthew Clark of The Christian Science Monitor asks, "Where's the Muslim outrage?"

[Alexandros]

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China dismisses Turkish PM's genocide remarks

Tuesday, July 14, 2009

ISTANBUL - Hürriyet Daily News

Chinese Foreign Ministry on Tuesday dismissed Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s remarks that genocide was being committed in China's Muslim region of Xinjiang, where ethnic violence has left at least 184 dead

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang said on Tuesday the accusation of genocide simply did not make sense.

Most people who died in the riots were Han and over the past few decades the Uighur population in Xinjiang had increased sharply, he added.

"In which country could this be called genocide?" Qin was quoted by Reuters as saying at a regular news briefing.

"We hope that our Muslim brothers can realize the truth of the July 5 incident in Urumqi. Once they know the truth, they would support our ethnic and religious policies and the measures the Chinese government has taken to deal with the incident,” he added.

Erdoğan, whose country shares ethnic and cultural bonds with the Turkic-speaking Uighurs, is the most vocal foreign leader to criticize China's actions in Xinjiang. He said last week that “the incidents in China are, simply put, a genocide, and there's no point in interpreting this otherwise." He called on Chinese authorities to intervene to prevent more deaths.

The July 5 violence began when Uighurs protesting last month’s deaths of fellow factory workers in a brawl in southern China clashed with police. Crowds scattered throughout the city, attacking ethnic Han Chinese and burning cars.

Of the 184 reported killed, the government has said 137 were Han Chinese and 46 were Uighurs, along with one minority Hui Muslim. Uighurs say they believe many more from their ethnic group died in the government crackdown, in which more than 1,600 people were also wounded and 1,000 detained.

The Uighurs, who number 9 million in Xinjiang, have complained about an influx of Han Chinese and government restrictions on their Muslim religion. They accuse the Han of discrimination and the Communist Party of trying to erase their language and culture.

China's state media hits out at Erdoğan

China’s state media also urged Erdoğan on Tuesday to recant his remarks regarding the incidents in Xinjiang.

In an editorial headlined "Don't twist facts," the English-language China Daily said Erdoğan's description of the violence that has blighted the remote northwest region “as ‘a kind of genocide’ is an irresponsible and groundless accusation.”

“The fact that 137 of the 184 persons killed in the riots are Han Chinese speaks volumes for the nature of the event,” the paper added.

The China Daily said the Turkish prime minister's remarks constituted “interference in China's internal affairs” and they are the “last thing the Uygur and Han Chinese would find helpful when they are looking forward to lasting peace.”

"Chinese leaders are the last people who want to see happenings like these in the largest ethnic autonomous region," it added.

Erdoğan had earlier said Turkey would grant a visa to exiled Uighur leader Rebiya Kadeer, who is based in the United States. Kadeer told Turkish television that Turkish authorities had twice denied her visa application to visit the country. China has blamed the ethnic unrest on exiled Uighur separatists, especially Kadeer, who denies the charge.

The Chinese violence has sparked almost daily protests in Turkey, mostly outside heavily guarded Chinese diplomatic missions in Istanbul and Ankara.

Turkish Industry Minister Nihat Ergun has called on Turks to stop buying Chinese goods although the government itself has no plans for an official boycott.

Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu has called his Chinese counterpart Yang Jiechi and conveyed Turkey’s concerns. The Chinese foreign minister told Davutoğlu over the phone on Sunday that the Urumqi riots were a grave crime orchestrated by the "three evil forces,” state news agency Xinhua said, referring to "extremism, separatism and terrorism.”

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[Merv]

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47 dead Uighur = genocide. How?

The only refreshing thing about all this is that it reminds the Turks that they really come from Asia and what they originally looked like - like Rebiya and co.

Interestingly, red/blond hair and blue/green eyes are not uncommon amongst Uyghur, and may indicate Tocharian (an Indo-European people) ancestry, mixed with Turkic/Han influences: