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  • #11
    Personally, I hope we have plans somewhere to invade and destroy every goddamn nation on this planet, except Armenia, of course. You never know who'll need to be put down next.
    Sweet is the lore which nature brings; our meddling intellect misshapes the beauteous forms of things: we murder to dissect.

    -William Wordsworth

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    • #12
      Originally posted by TigranJamharian what the xxxx do you want? I dont like bush but i have to say that there is no way that a government can function normally in the foreign arena if it tells its people all of its plans ahead of time and tells them all the secrets, thats ludicrious.
      You just admitted that the existence of government is conspiracy.
      Achkerov kute.

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      • #13
        The existence of any group of people who plan things without complete public disclosure is conspiracy. That qualifies any governing body that has ever existed, whether it governs a nation or a boxing commission. So what?
        Sweet is the lore which nature brings; our meddling intellect misshapes the beauteous forms of things: we murder to dissect.

        -William Wordsworth

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        • #14
          Originally posted by loseyourname The existence of any group of people who plan things without complete public disclosure is conspiracy. That qualifies any governing body that has ever existed, whether it governs a nation or a boxing commission. So what?
          "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!," intoned the Wizard of Oz an admonition designed to intimidate the inquisitive into silence.
          Achkerov kute.

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          • #15
            Do Conspiracies Exist?

            The world view promoted through education, media and generally in every day of life is one that denies the reality of conspiracies. The vast majority of people in the world do not believe in conspiracies. A dictionary will define a conspiracy as the act of two or more people coming together to plot to do something that is illegal. The truth is the world is full of conspiracy. If there was no such thing as conspiracies governments would not need Intelligence Agencies, which they themselves, sit behind closed doors and secretly plot on how to infiltrate another government illegally to gather intelligence they have no legal right to obtain. Those people who reject conspiracies as real just have not thought the issue through, or they simply don't want to believe that there are people in the world who plot the enslavement or destruction of others. If this is your belief I ask you where did Communism come from? How did Hitler rise to power?

            In fact conspiracies are part of every day life. People conspire with work associates to get a better position over someone else. Politicians conspire all the time to win public favour and also for their own personal gain. Many events which happened let's say 20 years ago are being exposed such as the government sponsored human radiation experiments in the USA. The CIA MK Ultra mind control program which was exposed in the late 1970's is another example of a cabal of people conspiring in secret to implement an agenda which the public would not approve. Plots and actions are exposed all the time. Conspiracies are a fact of life.

            Conspiracies exist all over the place. The question is not if conspiracies exist, for if they did not, we would not have that word in the dictionary. The question becomes, is there such a thing as a conspiracy to control the entire world and enslave the people in a fuedalistic and socialistic order? Also if there is in fact such a thing is it provable? Well the answer to both questions is a resounding YES!
            Achkerov kute.

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            • #16
              anon you have gotten this idea into year head that any form of government is evil and stupid and you fail to listen to any practical evidence that people present to you.
              Du hastaglukhes. ell ku het khosalu ban chunem

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              • #17
                Views of History

                There are two basic views of history. One we can term the 'Accidental View of History'. This view is the view which the majority of people believe in. This view pertains to the notion that events in history basically occur by accident and are merely the results of the conditions existing at the time. Events just occur and there is no real meaning to them. This is the view of the world we are presented with everyday by the news media, educational institutions and claimed experts. The 'Accidental View of History' is simply the accepted world view.

                The other view of history can be termed as the 'Conspiracy View of History' This is the cause and effect view of history. This view holds that major events in history are the result of careful planning and that these events are carried out with a desired goal in mind. Also events which arise which are not preplanned are manipulated to bring about a desireable result. This view of history is ridiculed and its exponents are portrayed as paranoid and delusional individuals.

                Now I will make an interesting statement. Those who view the events of the past as an accident are people who have never questioned the events deeply that go on around them while those who accept the conspiracy view of history as fact are those who have taken the time to carefully study it. For I absolutely guarantee you that if you take the time to carefully examine the evidence for the conspiratorial view of history with an open mind you will be quite amazed and most probably quite shocked with regards to the amount of evidence which exists and also to the implications which surround the topic.
                Achkerov kute.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by TigranJamharian anon you have gotten this idea into year head that any form of government is evil and stupid and you fail to listen to any practical evidence that people present to you.
                  Du hastaglukhes. ell ku het khosalu ban chunem
                  What evidence would you be talking about, stick figure?

                  I presented links with evidence for anyone to be able to research read and analyze. Have you looked into it? No. But that doesn't deter you from assuming things.
                  Achkerov kute.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Anonymouse "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!," intoned the Wizard of Oz an admonition designed to intimidate the inquisitive into silence.
                    You can't know everything, Mousy. It's impossible for any government to operate with complete public disclosure. Exactly what is it that you expect?
                    Sweet is the lore which nature brings; our meddling intellect misshapes the beauteous forms of things: we murder to dissect.

                    -William Wordsworth

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                    • #20
                      Conspiracy View Debunked

                      How is the evidence of the conspiracy view of history refuted? Well to answer this question, the evidence simply isn't discussed for much of the evidence speaks for itself and cannot be refuted.

                      There are the occasional attempts to refute various areas of the view but none of them really hold much ground when closely examined. Even though many are quite convincing for people unfamiliar with the subject. For example go take a look at this website- Website of Edward Flaherty, Ph.D. http://home.earthlink.net/~flahertyhsd/

                      This is by far the best conspiracy refution I know that exists on the internet. He has some very well written articles which deal with the United States Federal Reserve system.

                      Many books have been written which explain how the Federal Reserve Banking system actually works and also how the money system for the entire world works. This information awakens many people because it is so easy to explain and demonstrate how people have been decieved. The articles on the Edward Flaherty website refute accurately some of the points a few 'selected' authors, who have written on the Federal Reserve, have made. The articles in particular point out errors regarding 'auditing' and 'money payed to the treasury' which the authors in question do not mention. What the articles claim is in fact true. But the truth is that these articles have been written in such a way so that the reader will see the obvious errors in the 'selected' authors books and thus the reader, who is unfamiliar with the subject, will immediately go on to believe that ALL writers on similar subjects are just as in error. This is a very interesting and effectual conditioning technique which is used widely and many fall for it. The author of these refutations never addresses the issue that the money system is a debt money system (and the debt is owed to private interests), that the money is created out of nothing and that the interest was never created and thus comes out of something of real value. The author also never makes mention that the money being payed back to the treasury is in fact fiat money itself and is not really worth anything. This is why we must be able to read and THINK about what we are reading. Also we MUST do OUR OWN research to verify truth and expose deception. To many people go about their actions blindly and just accept what they are told by 'experts.'.

                      The major method employed to debunk those who believe in the conspiracy view of history is to attack the messenger so as to avoid an intelligent discussion of the message. It is interesting to note that the exact same techniques are used by the proponents of evolutionary theory when their theory is questioned.

                      A good example of this method would be the militia movement in the United States. In the United States, state militia's have been forming all across the nation. The militia movement claims that the government is becoming socialistic and that the freedoms of the American people are in danger. The militia movement also speak of the loss of United States sovereignty to the United Nations and many also claim that it is all part of an intentional plan to bring about a world government. The mass media and the government has labelled these state militia's as domestic terrorists, right wing extremists, anti-government, paranoids, and a general threat to freedom. The Alfred P. Murrah building bombing in Oklahoma City was blamed upon militia groups by the media even though Timothy McVeigh had been disavowed by the militia movement because of his views. The militia's had nothing whatsoever to do with the Oklahoma bombing yet the media gives the impression that they did. A careful study of ALL the evidence in regards to this tragedy clearly indicates that the Federal Government instituted a coverup and that the involvement of Timothy McVeigh was created in order to cover the real motive of the bombing.

                      Now if you will pay attention to what the various militia groups are actually saying you will notice that their views are never discussed in detail, EVER! The messenger has been attacked in order to avoid an intelligent discussion of the message.

                      A regulated state militia is protected by the United States Constitution. A state militia is LEGAL. State militia's have been involved throughout the history of the United States and they have fought and preserved freedom. George Washington was a member of the militia. Ask yourself, why are these militia's forming? Why are these people concerned? Are any of the claims of the militia movement actually true? Is the United States heading into a world government where rights are not protected? Well view some of the primary documentation on my website for an answer to these questions. The problem today is the average person does not think for themselves or question what they are told and thus are very susceptible to mental programming. The fact is most people today are brainwashed.

                      Another method to debunk these 'crazy conspiratorialists' is to throw them in the same category as the Ku Klux Klan, White Supremacist and Neo-Nazi groups. So they are black labelled by association.

                      Now how is it possible to bring in a totalitarian socialist world government without the people realising? To understand this you NEED to be informed in two critical areas which play an important role. These areas are, 1. Mind Control and 2. The Monetary System. An understanding of both of these is very important and I will briefly discuss both below. I encourage you to do your own research into these areas as what I have put together here is only a very brief summary. Follow up study is essential to gain a proper understanding of how the present world system and current world events are being manipulated so as to bring us all into the pre-planned one world government system.
                      Achkerov kute.

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