Muammar Gaddafi and Libyan crisis

[KanadaHye]

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What, you think that they are just going to bomb the hell out of the place then leave? lol

I guess they really did plan on bombing the hell out of Libya and leaving... but wait, that's what they said about Afghanistan and Iraq.


U.S. to cede control of Libyan mission within days: Obama

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2...k-tuesday.html

[Armanen]

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Russia is just warming up with West/NATO. They are knocking down the walls of the cold war, and trying to forge closer ties with Western structures like EU. In my opinion, sooner or later the CSTO/Russia and the West/NATO will be partners rather than adversaries.

What is more likely to occur than nato and Russia being friends is the collapse and/or German domination of the eu. Following this Berlin and Moscow set up an axis with Beijing. This is a topic that would require its own thread. If you understand the elitist policy of the Anglo-American-Zionist world, it is very anti-Russia and unless their elites are overthrown (fat chance), then they will continue to be anti-Russian.

On a side note, people need to realize that Russia is trying to revamp its military and economy. They are working on diversification of their economy and when they do engage in power politics it is via their energy tools, so I am not sure why some people are think Russia is not playing their cards right. They are doing with the US should do, that is, taking care of its own internal issues first and foremost.

[Mos]

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I have been disappointed with Russia's foreign policy as of late too. It is not capitalising on anything and making bizarre moves. I was talking about this in another thread about how it was perplexing that Russia canceled the S-300 sales to Iran http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....l=1#post310262 Perhaps it is all part of a huge package deal about the whole missile shield/Georgia NATO entry etc. thing.

We need Putin back ASAP.

Russia is just warming up with West/NATO. They are knocking down the walls of the cold war, and trying to forge closer ties with Western structures like EU. In my opinion, sooner or later the CSTO/Russia and the West/NATO will be partners rather than adversaries.

[KanadaHye]

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I have been disappointed with Russia's foreign policy as of late too. It is not capitalising on anything and making bizarre moves. I was talking about this in another thread about how it was perplexing that Russia canceled the S-300 sales to Iran http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....l=1#post310262 Perhaps it is all part of a huge package deal about the whole missile shield/Georgia NATO entry etc. thing.

We need Putin back ASAP.

I think they are just playing safe... there is no other explanation other than they are saving their influence for something big. For the most part, they only care about their own back yard. Perhaps they are saving the fun for Asia.

[Federate]

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I have been having a difficult time figuring out Russia lately. With the USA having its troops spread out so thin what exactly is stoping Russia from exerting its own influence? The Georgia intervention was inevitable because it was right under Russia's nose but i do not understand why it only reacts when mortaly threatened instead of throwing its weight around. China can use Lybian oil to so why is it not doing anything? I wonder what it took to buy these two powers off.

I have been disappointed with Russia's foreign policy as of late too. It is not capitalising on anything and making bizarre moves. I was talking about this in another thread about how it was perplexing that Russia canceled the S-300 sales to Iran http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....l=1#post310262 Perhaps it is all part of a huge package deal about the whole missile shield/Georgia NATO entry etc. thing.

We need Putin back ASAP.

[Haykakan]

Re: Muammar Gaddafi and Libyan crisis

I have been having a difficult time figuring out Russia lately. With the USA having its troops spread out so thin what exactly is stoping Russia from exerting its own influence? The Georgia intervention was inevitable because it was right under Russia's nose but i do not understand why it only reacts when mortaly threatened instead of throwing its weight around. China can use Lybian oil to so why is it not doing anything? I wonder what it took to buy these two powers off.

[KanadaHye]

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Ingenious ... Everyone claims that Medvedev is Putin's man so this gives them an opportunity to be on separate sides of the fence. It allows Russia to take punches at the west, fueling tensions between the crusaders and their policies while at the same time remaining neutral on Libya.

[Federate]

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Uh oh
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Medvedev rebuts Putin over Libya (Update 1)


In a rare faceoff with Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, President Dmitry Medvedev said on Monday he stood by Moscow's decision not to veto the UN Security Council resolution on Libya.

"Russia did not exercise [the veto power] for one reason: I do not consider this resolution to be wrong. Moreover, I believe that this resolution generally reflects our understanding of what is going on in Libya," Medvedev said.

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin earlier on Monday likened the UN Security Council resolution on Libya to a medieval crusade call.

In response to Putin's comments, Medvedev said the comparison was "inadmissible."

"It is absolutely inexcusable to use expressions that in effect lead to a clash of civilizations - such as 'crusades,' and so on - that is unacceptable," Medvedev said.

Otherwise "everything could end up in far worse shape than it is now," he warned.

"It is important to remember this."

Russia abstained from a UN Security Council resolution adopted on Thursday imposing a no-fly zone over Libya and measures to protect civilians from Muammar Gaddafi's forces.

Medvedev stressed that the Russian Foreign Ministry had acted strictly in compliance with his instructions.

Under the Russian Constitution, the country's foreign policy is formulated by the president, not the prime minister.

Western-led military strikes against Libya's strongman Muammar Gaddafi, who has been ruthlessly fighting rebels in the North African country since mid-February, began on Saturday.

Libyan television has reported that at least 50 civilians have been killed and over 150 wounded in the strikes and that many health and education facilities have been destroyed.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20110321/163130143.html

[Federate]

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[KanadaHye]

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I agree with this.... they claim they aren't targeting Gaddafi so they will have a reason to put troops on the ground after it becomes "necessary"

'False flag operation predicted for Libya'

If the US follows its historical playbook of Iraq hunting for Saddam and Afghanistan as well, their next step is a false flag catastrophe to substantiate NATO troops on the ground in Libya.

Press TV talks with Mark Glenn, a writer and political commentator in Coeur D'Alene, Idaho who expands on his analysis that the US is using uprisings across the Middle East to pave the way for intervention on humanitarian grounds to gain greater imperialist dominance.

Can read more here: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/171016.html