Why vazgen sarkisyan have been killed

[gregory]

Re: Why vazgen sarkisyan have been killed

Even the selfproclaimed "hairenaser" armenians in the west would rather go spend their money in middle eastern coutries then in Hayastan. These people will talk all day abouut their patriotism without ever setting foot in Armenia. The best thing anyone can do for Armenia(and for one's self) is to visit it.

yes it is common attitude among Armenians , but as a native of Argentina all the Armenian s have visited once or more times Armenia since the various schools organizing charity activities accumulate sufficient amount sums to send every year young Armenians to Armenia I can say here you cant find anyone who havent been in Armenia ,but of course the issue is not only touring our homeland the attitude of the political power which comes along heavy corruption puts off diaspora ti INVEST there , Again only investors of Armenia emerges from Argentina such mr. Ornekyan a great figure who invested a lots of capital in Armenia but of course taking the government security before doing so. Ok my thoughts was to find Vazgens crime reasons but we have a big emptiness where there are no clues whatsoever ,emptiness which is very friendly with corruption .

[Haykakan]

Re: Why vazgen sarkisyan have been killed

Even the selfproclaimed "hairenaser" armenians in the west would rather go spend their money in middleeastern coutries then in Hayastan. These people will talk all day abouut their patriotism without ever setting foot in Armenia. The best thing anyone can do for Armenia(and for one's self) is to visit it.

[Armanen]

Re: Why vazgen sarkisyan have been killed

I do not think money was the reason behind the assasinations. The assasins were not gona get away to enjoy the money so this is a unlikely motive in my opinion. The root of the problem is and has been Armenia's location. Every world power has come banging at our door to control the important routes armenia sits on. It is our geographical location which has economic and strategic values that brings so much war and bloodshed to our people. Maybe our last king had the right idea when he got up and moved to cilicia but it was too late too little and not far enough. We stay in Russias orbit because we have no other real choice which would allow Armenia to survive. Unfortunately stayin in the embrace of the russian bear means staying weak or controlable and not persuing our full potential. Leaving Russia's orbit will likely mean death to the Armenian state since our other options are the USA which has our enemies as its best friends or Iran which cannot seeem to be able to help Syria let alone us. As i have been saying Armenia has to choose survival in the embrace of the russian bear for now and for a long time to come because it is the best of the bad options it has. Those who rule Armenia will come and go but the underlying cause for our decline and weakness is our location and i am not sure what can be done about it.

Armenians in Russia should make the Kremlin realize how important a strong Armenia is for Russian interests. I think they are working toward this direction but perhaps not as quickly as we'd like. Furthermore, the Diaspora in the West should do more than just donate money to Armenia, they should invest like the Russian-Armenian and Iranian-Armenian diasporas have been.

[gregory]

Re: Why vazgen sarkisyan have been killed

I do not think money was the reason behind the assasinations. The assasins were not gona get away to enjoy the money so this is a unlikely motive in my opinion. The root of the problem is and has been Armenia's location. Every world power has come banging at our door to control the important routes armenia sits on. It is our geographical location which has economic and strategic values that brings so much war and bloodshed to our people. Maybe our last king had the right idea when he got up and moved to cilicia but it was too late too little and not far enough. We stay in Russias orbit because we have no other real choice which would allow Armenia to survive. Unfortunately stayin in the embrace of the russian bear means staying weak or controlable and not persuing our full potential. Leaving Russia's orbit will likely mean death to the Armenian state since our other options are the USA which has our enemies as its best friends or Iran which cannot seeem to be able to help Syria let alone us. As i have been saying Armenia has to choose survival in the embrace of the russian bear for now and for a long time to come because it is the best of the bad options it has. Those who rule Armenia will come and go but the underlying cause for our decline and weakness is our location and i am not sure what can be done about it.

well hayrenagitz quite logical for one part but of course course of politics is very dynamic and has his roads to follow , we can not foresee the future ,looking back we note that how many kingdoms,countries have vanished or changed their borders ,we are living in a very dynamic system changes are very brutal we cant estimate the future of USA, Russia, Chine at all so Armenia should develop a political map step by step playing and preparing for being the big potential which is not difficult at all ,Serz Sarkisyan is doing his part very but very good indeed , Iam applauding his talent but meanwhile waiting a response for Vazgens assignation, some one some where in Armenia knows about it .

[Haykakan]

Re: Why vazgen sarkisyan have been killed

I do not think money was the reason behind the assasinations. The assasins were not gona get away to enjoy the money so this is a unlikely motive in my opinion. The root of the problem is and has been Armenia's location. Every world power has come banging at our door to control the important routes armenia sits on. It is our geographical location which has economic and strategic values that brings so much war and bloodshed to our people. Maybe our last king had the right idea when he got up and moved to cilicia but it was too late too little and not far enough. We stay in Russias orbit because we have no other real choice which would allow Armenia to survive. Unfortunately stayin in the embrace of the russian bear means staying weak or controlable and not persuing our full potential. Leaving Russia's orbit will likely mean death to the Armenian state since our other options are the USA which has our enemies as its best friends or Iran which cannot seeem to be able to help Syria let alone us. As i have been saying Armenia has to choose survival in the embrace of the russian bear for now and for a long time to come because it is the best of the bad options it has. Those who rule Armenia will come and go but the underlying cause for our decline and weakness is our location and i am not sure what can be done about it.

[gregory]

Re: Why vazgen sarkisyan have been killed

well to conclude and think freely as basic rationalization which any human can take logical path we can come a fact that killing Vazgen it is not pointing any Russian connection at all,lets look Georgian example .the current president overthrows Shvartznade a fine collogue of Kremlin we dont see any action, after the USA arm forces sends around 500 for some estimation are 1500 ground force to Georgia again Russia hasnt any action towards Mikheil Saakashvili that time , as we recall sanctions was implicated by Kremlin against Georgia but any assassination plan was not executed for Saakashvilly, if Kremlin have desired to do it it could have done in a minute and it was just that easy ,yet we dont see any direct hostilities.Why you are concentrating Vazgen assassination as if emerges from Kremlin's direct orders , Russias interest was not eliminating a powerful man who could have more utility for them using future Kremlin interest
here USA columnist could have talk about "our boys have killed " but that for me doesnt make any logical sense.A weak Armenia for this period of time will not favour Russia at all.I stress his assassination comes from an internal conflict, according his wife she mentioned once Vazgen was very upset when he was informed that a big amount of US dollar sum that have been sent from abroad towards Armenia was vanished, who had this sum ,what conflict surged between Vazgen and the other authorities , I suppose this is the root of the problem.

[Haykakan]

Re: Why vazgen sarkisyan have been killed

It was a intersting read but i doubt Armenia would have ever agreed to give up its border with iran. There is no proof of this anywhere and this is what that whole argumrnt is based on. Vazgen fought and would have died for his country and i doubt he would have 1. went along with such a horrible plan for Armenia 2. I very much doubt that Vazgen and Demirjian who had deep ties with Russia both personal and in every other aspect would double cross the big bear knowing full well its abilities and power over Armenia. I do Agree with the author that Armenias only hope has been and continues to be in the embrace of the russian bear and i doubt Vazgen or any other leader (except for LTP) would think otherwise. There are some american armenians who are dumb enough to think Armenia would be better off with the west but that is another story since this author himself states armenias future can only be secure under russias influence.

[Armanen]

Re: Why vazgen sarkisyan have been killed

thanks for information yet it is difficult to understand why Vazgen should incline towards west since his life time works shows the opposite ,perhaps a moment of mistrust for his Russian teachers ? I doubt a lot

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[gregory]

Re: Why vazgen sarkisyan have been killed

http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/...men-burst.html

thanks for information yet it is difficult to understand why Vazgen should incline towards west since his life time works shows the opposite ,perhaps a moment of mistrust for his Russian teachers ? I doubt a lot

[Armanen]

Re: Why vazgen sarkisyan have been killed

http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/2010/11/eleven-years-ago-today-gunmen-burst.html